18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I think the sector has been broadly supportive of the proposals. So, I mentioned at the very very start that we'd been inspired by what's happened elsewhere in the world, in particular for example New Zealand. They haven't, I think I'm right in saying…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, the current—. As I know that you know very well, the current arrangements for delivering on apprenticeships is clunky, if I can put it like that, and it's based on legislation that we know is outdated, really. So, the ambition in the Bill in relation to…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, I can give the committee the assurance that I'm content that all publicly funded tertiary education providers in Wales will be subject to oversight through the Bill. So, we have the register, which provides for higher education providers who want…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, I do think it's proportionate. I think, on the question of quality, you could imagine public interest circumstances in this space, it seems to me, in there being some external inspection of provision that may be beyond the regulatory remit of Estyn…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, as I say, some of it is about that, isn't it? We are building on the strength that Estyn delivers in that space now. And, as I was saying, it's an evolution from that. We've listened to what stakeholders have told us about that, but there's still…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
So, if I may, I'll just answer some of the specific points and then take a step back to look at how we got to this point, really. So, on the specific questions, there are detailed provisions in the Bill around the role of Estyn in particular. The need for…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, I think, perhaps with the term 'collaborating bodies', anything that seems like a consent requirement might look like a barrier, but actually, in substance, it extends collaboration in the following way: the commission will not have a direct regulatory…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, this is really, from my point of view, a very, very important part of the Bill, and I'm really pleased that the first strategic duty of the Bill, when you read it, is one that requires the commission to promote lifelong learning. I've spoken many times…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Ie, jest i ategu beth roeddem ni’n sôn amdano yn gynharach, mae hyn yn adlewyrchu y ffyrdd sy’n bodoli o fewn y system ehangach o ariannu darparwyr yn y sector yn gyffredinol. Felly, os ydych chi yn brifysgol, incwm y ffioedd dysgu yw un o’r prif ffyrdd…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I might ask David Morris to help us on some of the detail of this, if I may, but the commission will have a recourse to a range of interventions to deal with situations where institutions are either failing to comply or have failed to comply with ongoing…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I don't think that is the case. As with all these things, and I know as you know, there is a balance to be struck, isn't there, between being prescriptive and providing flexibility. So, I anticipate, in this space, that regulators probably would argue for…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
So, that's an important point. There are two answers to that question, really. One is that it's not principally a consolidation Bill; it's principally a reform Bill. That isn't the main answer, but just to say that. But the real issue, I think, in substantive…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. Again, in a way, that's a different manifestation of the earlier point, which is, it's a single sector but with a diverse range of providers. And so—. I suppose I should start by saying both higher and further education institutions across the UK…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, I think it does. That is the intention, and I think the Bill delivers on that. I think there are two parts to your question—one is around the funding, and one is around the regulatory intervention, so I'll take each in turn, if I may. So, on the…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Wel, os oes gan y pwyllgor awgrymiadau penodol ynglŷn â sut i gryfhau'r rhan yna o'r ddeddf, byddai gyda fi ddiddordeb i glywed hynny, oherwydd rwy'n sicr eisiau parhau'r drafodaeth dŷn ni wedi dechrau ei chael er mwyn inni gynnal ffydd pobl yn y rhan yma o'r…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Rwy'n cytuno â chi: mae'r pwerau hynny yn bwerau backstop. Dyna'r peth cyntaf i ddweud. Felly, rŷch chi'n iawn yn hynny o beth yn sicr. Gwnaethon ni feddwl am hyn. Cawson ni sgwrs fer yn y Siambr ynglŷn â'r pwynt hwn. Gwnaethon ni feddwl am beth oedd y ffordd…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Wel, mae hwn yn tynnu ar yr un pwynt a dweud y gwir. Felly, yr egwyddor, y cysyniad gwaelodol, sylfaenol yn hyn o beth yw bod y Bil yn gofyn i'r comisiwn i ateb blaenoriaethau Llywodraeth Cymru o bryd i'w gilydd yn eu cynllun strategol nhw. Felly, dyna'r…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Wel, ar un lefel, mae'r egwyddorion hynny yn egwyddorion y mae pob deddfwriaeth sydd yn creu corff newydd yn gorfod mynd i'r afael â nhw. Felly, mae hwn yn gyd-destun bythol, os hoffwch chi, i'r hyn mae'r Llywodraeth yn gwneud wrth sefydlu corff hyd braich. Y…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I think that's one of the areas that we could probably put in the category of building on existing legislation, really, because those are powers that, in a HEFCW-specific way, already exist in the current legislation. So, the new commission, obviously, will…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Just in the way I was starting to touch on in my answer to your previous question, there's been work going on, if I can put it like this, in the background for a while in relation to this, including through workshops with stakeholders, and that is about…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Wel, rwy'n credu bod y cyfnod hwnnw yn—. Os ydw i'n deall y cwestiwn yn iawn, a maddeuwch imi os nad ydw i, ond rwy'n credu mai yn nwylo'r pwyllgor mae pennu'r cyfnod hwnnw, gan mai ymgynghoriad y pwyllgor yw e, nid ymgynghoriad y Llywodraeth. Felly, rŷn ni…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
On the question of the legislation, when we are able to share the legislative implementation plan with the committee, that will help, I think, in terms of the particular regulations and help describe at which points they're most likely to be useful and…
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Morning.
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I may ask one of my officials to help with that question, if I may, Chair. Zenny, could I ask you to help us with that?
18 Tachwedd 2021 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Y Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. There's a range of regulation-making powers in the Bill. Some are subject to negative procedure, some are subject to affirmative procedure, and I guess they come in different categories, really, Chair. Some of them are in the Bill to enable the sector to…
