13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Wel, mae hwn, ar un lefel, yn faes cymhleth, felly, ond, ar y llaw arall, mae'n eithaf syml. Hynny yw, beth yw'r opsiynau posib o ran perthynas? Rŷch chi'n dweud—neu mae eich cwestiwn chi'n dweud, efallai dylen i ddweud—fod cyfrifoldeb ar y comisiwn i yrru’r…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Wel, eich gair chi yw 'dim ond' yn y cyd-destun hwnnw, nid gair y Ddeddf. Nid dyna gwmpas y ddyletswydd. Mae e yn ehangach na hynny. Hynny yw, y drafodaeth rŷm ni wedi'i chael mewn amryw o gyd-destunau addysg statudol ac ati yw nid ein bwriad ni, nid ein…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Wel, wrth ddrafftio'r Bil, rŷn ni wedi edrych ar y rhyngwyneb, rwy'n credu yw'r gair, rhwng deddfwriaeth anghenion addysg ychwanegol ar yr un llaw a beth rŷn ni'n ei gynnig yn y Bil ar gyfer y comisiwn. Felly, mae'r gwaith yna wedi bod yn rhan greiddiol o…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
I think the Bill will enable us to deliver—will support us in delivering that number, for sure. So, the question of 'more clunky', I think my own language is being used back at me here—I think I described the current system as 'clunky', so I'm being…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Well, this concept of rationalisation—I don't want to set a hare running—that language is used in the existing legislation. So, that's the relevance of that phrase; it's not that there are some new tools being deployed for the purpose of rationalisation. The…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Well, I don't think we can do that. Again, and I don't want to keep saying the same phrase, but it's about, you know, it's one sector but there is a plurality of provision in the sector. And I think quality is one of those areas where what we're trying to do…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Yes. Well, it is right, they're right: there are two sources of funding, but there are two sets of activities. So, I think, in very high-level terms, that's the rationale for it. Estyn is currently funded, obviously, by us, by the Welsh Government, under the…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Well, it was not the intention, and I also don't think it's the outcome. I don't think there is an overlap in the powers of the commission and Estyn. I think the Bill sets out pretty clearly who does what in this space, if I can put it like that. So, there…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Wel, mae rhyddid academaidd yn y ffordd hwnnw yn rhan o gwmpas y Bil fel mae e ar hyn o bryd. Byddaf i'n hapus i edrych ar y pwynt penodol rŷch chi wedi'i wneud, i jest sicrhau—. Roeddech chi'n gwneud pwynt manwl, felly fe wnaf i jest wirio eto fy mod i'n…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Sure. I think, just for context, when you say 'announced', it was a decision to explore the feasibility of a national body, actually, rather than the announcement of a body being established. So, my personal view is that the key issue here is about national…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
HEFCW has given you evidence of that. I know the Learned Society have a view on this and the chairs of universities in Wales have also raised questions and proposals in this space. I think it's kind of helpful to decouple them a little bit, because there's a…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
I suppose the first question here is: what is the purpose of the Bill, isn't it? So, is the purpose of the Bill to regulate research, or is the purpose of the Bill to regulate the post-compulsory education sector, in very broad terms? There's obviously an…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Okay. So, in a way, this is a borrowed concept, if I can use that term. It is borrowed from the existing legislative framework. So, if you look at the Learning and Skills Act 2000, that makes a distinction between facilities that are proper and those that are…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Well, the objective of the Bill is to create one sector with a plurality and diversity of providers. That's one piece of context. The other piece of context is that the Bill isn't able to change the entire landscape of how, for example, in this particular…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
I do, actually, on the whole, from what they said to you, and I think we could and should include more detail in the EIA. To be honest, much of that is to reflect evidence that's already been collated, so some of it might require a bit more investigation, but…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Why is there no similar provision in the Bill? By that I take it that you mean a general broad-based duty across the piece, if you like. So, the starting point for any law really, but it's definitely the case here, is that we have institutions that are…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
I have had correspondence in relation to this matter, so I'd be happy to write specifically to the committee on the current arrangements. In terms of how that is amended by the Bill, I'm afraid it won't be. You might recall the discussion we had the last time…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Yes, of course. Look, I'm conscious that stakeholders have given evidence to you along those lines, and, as it happens, I was able to attend the cross-party group on universities where this was a theme that a number of people raised there as well. The concept…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Well, those are two separate scenarios, Chair, really. The point, really, is that—. Firstly, on the question of directions more broadly, the kind of example that has—. I suppose the most recent example, if I can put it like that, isn’t actually a direction…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Wel, y rheswm am hynny yw bod cynnwys y Bil yn gyson gyda’r darpariaethau cyfredol sydd yn Neddf 2015, ac mae’r rheini’n cynnwys dyletswyddau a gwaith HEFCW yn unig. Felly, dyna’r rhesymeg—ei fod e’n adlewyrchu’r hyn sy’n digwydd yng nghyd-destun HEFCW. Ond…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Wel, rŷn ni wedi dilyn trywydd gwahanol i'r approach sydd yn Neddf 1992 ar hyn o bryd. Mae hynny, wrth gwrs, yn wir. Mae'r Bil yn caniatáu i ni fel Gweinidogion roi cyfarwyddiadau. Ond mae cyfyngiadau ar hynny, ac mae camau sydd yn diogelu ynghlwm yn hynny…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Wel, yr ateb syml i'ch cwestiwn chi yw fy mod i'n bwriadu cyflwyno diwygiad yn y maes hwn. O ran cynnwys y diwygiad hwnnw, dwi'n dal i edrych ar beth fydd hwnnw. Ond jest fel cyd-destun, os caf i, mae'r pwerau sydd yn y Bil o ran diddymu'r corfforaethau, oni…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
Ie, cytuno'n llwyr gyda chi am hynny—pa mor bwysig yw e. Mae'n bwysig yn ein cyrff cyhoeddus ni yn gyffredinol. Wrth gwrs, rŷn ni'n gweithio i sicrhau hynny. Fel mae'n digwydd, mae darn o waith ar y gweill ar hyn o bryd—efallai ei fod e hyd yn oed wedi cael…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
There are definitely lessons to be learned from elsewhere, but I don't think they're lessons, if I can be clear, that we learn from ELWa, Chair, because I think that was a very different enterprise indeed. We are talking here about actually bringing together…
13 Ionawr 2022 , Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Bil Addysg Drydyddol ac Ymchwil (Cymru)—sesiwn dystiolaeth 11
As we all know, the OU's relationship with the Bill is slightly different, for reasons that are to do with its establishment and its compass, but, having said that, the values and the objectives of the Bill are four-square with those of the OU, really. So, I…
