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11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Thank you. I'll pass over to Peredur Owen Griffiths, who's got questions on this.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

So, Kirsty, would you welcome—would your organisations welcome—seeing something that prevented your members from sourcing one of the products you were going to use from an organisation that was using slave labour, for example?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Okay. And you mentioned earlier in your remarks about the link with the global responsibilities that we all have, if we're subject to the well-being of future generations Act, and yet we've had some correspondence from other organisations saying that this…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Okay. I just want to have a look at—. A lot of public bodies face wicked issues that are very difficult to resolve. Do you think that the Bill is going to encourage the voluntary sector to be involved in procuring services that might be better done in a new…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Excellent. Thank you. Can we now move on to Jane Dodds?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Ruth to start off, yes.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Thank you very much. Peredur Owen Griffiths.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Kirsty, did you want to add anything? You don't have to repeat what Ruth has said if you agree with that, but if there's anything you want to add. Otherwise, I will move on to the next Member who wants to ask questions.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Does Kirsty want to come in and comment?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

[Inaudible.]

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee, and we're now going to take our eighth evidence session on the social justice and public procurement Bill. This session is with the voluntary sector, so I'd very much like to welcome Ruth Marks from…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

The committee will now take a short break and we will resume promptly at 11:35 for our next scrutiny session with the voluntary sector.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Thank you. So, scrutiny of outcomes is key to delivery of the objectives that we are setting ourselves. Thank you for that. We'll send you transcripts of your contributions and obviously, I'd urge you to make sure that we have accurately recorded what you…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Very quickly.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Liz, you wanted to come back on that.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Thank you very much. Joel James, did you want to come in?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Ed.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Do you want to start?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Ed Evans.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

I think Ed wanted to add something.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Hang on a moment, Ken. I think Liz Lucas wanted to add something.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

I think so. I think they're just waiting to see who's going first. Ed, do you want to start?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Who wants to go—

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Thank you for that honesty. Could I bring in Ken Skates now?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 7—arbenigwyr caffael

Thank you. Peredur.