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11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 10—cyflogwyr y sector cyhoeddus

Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee, where we're continuing our scrutiny of the social partnership and public procurement Bill. This afternoon's session is with Karen Higgins and Jon Rae from the Welsh Local Government Association, and…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Is there anything you wanted to add? No. That's fine. Well, thank you, all three of you, very much for your contributions. We'll send you a transcript of what you said, and please use the opportunity to correct anything we've got wrong. Thank you very much…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

That's our job. Right. Peredur, do you want to—?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Thank you. Peredur Owen Griffiths.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Thank you. Well, we're seeing them later on, so we'll put that to them. Professor Heery.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Briefly.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Professor Hayes.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Diolch. We'll move on to Joel James.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Any further questions, Jane?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Professor Felstead.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Okay. Shall we go to Professor Hayes next, lest we lose her?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Back to Jane Dodds.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Okay. Jane, Peredur would like to just come in at this point.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Thank you. Apologies for not seeing your hand earlier—just wave rather than using electronic hands in future. Right, can we now move on to Jane Dodds, who's got some questions on the social partnership council?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Thank you. Professor Hayes, I think you wanted to come in at this point.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Okay. In Germany, that was quite famous at one point for having the trade unions in the same room as the employers to discuss workplace issues. Other people have said to me, 'Oh, well that benefited the trade union officials who were in the room, but didn't…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Okay, thank you for that. Joel, back to you.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Thank you. Back to you, Mike.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Yes, indeed.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

[Inaudible.]—I'll bring in Mike Hedges, who I know has some questions on this, and I'll come back to you on the other.

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 9—melinau trafod ac academyddion

Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee. We're going to have a further scrutiny session—session 9—on the Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill. We have three eminent professors who are experts in procurement: Professor Alan…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Thank you both for that. We will send you a transcript of your contributions, and please take the opportunity to ensure that we have accurately captured what you were saying. Otherwise, thank you very much indeed for your contributions—extremely useful—and…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Thank you very much for those comments. Kirsty, is there anything you'd like to add on any of that?

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Okay. Just lastly from me, obviously the voluntary sector is great at galvanising citizens to volunteer. How are you squaring the circle, do you think, in the context of public procurement, so that there’s clarity about paying people for doing a job of work…

11 Gorffennaf 2022, Equality and Social Justice Committee

Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 8—y sector gwirfoddol

Very good. We can now go to Ken Skates.