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Papers to note
Our next item then is to note a few papers that we have before us. There are three papers in total. Are we happy to note them together? Yes. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Okay.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
There are choices available indeed, and your work certainly helps enrich our considerations and deliberations around some of those. So, thank you, Graham, for joining us. It's been really useful. And, as I said earlier on, much of what you've shared with us…
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
And there are Members who've actually travelled on buses to engage with their constituents as well, and used the opportunity to have those chats and discussions. Very, very briefly, Jenny, because we are out of time.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Okay. Huw, then, just to conclude. And Janet, very briefly, just to conclude.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Okay, good. Joyce, anything there?
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Yes. Okay. Thank you. Huw.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
And clearly, I think, you'd obviously have a part to play in our scrutiny of the Bill when the time comes. Jenny, and then Huw.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
But you would see it as an important part of the jigsaw.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
And of course, we are expecting a bus Bill here in Wales, which presumably will come before this committee for scrutiny, and the whole franchising proposal will become clearer in terms of what exactly that means for those kinds of services. So, what kind of…
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Okay, thank you. Right, we'll come to Janet, and then we'll come back to Jenny then. Janet.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
And just to add to that, the work that we did in our previous report highlighted that the least well-off areas actually lost the most services during COVID, so, clearly, there's a question about companies cherry-picking the more sustainable routes et cetera…
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Okay. I'm conscious that Janet has been very patient with us—I know you've got a couple of things you want to raise—but Joyce just wants to come in on one more thing and then we'll certainly move on to Janet.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Yes.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Yes. That's a whole inquiry, I think, for us as a committee, potentially, there. The whole placemaking thing is really important. Huw.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
I think there's a target of 30 per cent, isn't there, in Wales, of people working from home, stated by the Government, so, obviously that will have a knock-on effect, then, on maybe some of the economics of some of these things as well. Delyth.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
I've got hands going up everywhere now, so I've got Delyth—sorry, I've got Joyce coming in next, then Delyth, then Huw, and, then, we'll come on to Janet.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Okay. Jenny.
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Excellent. Thank you so much for that. There we are—I think we're calling up our colleagues who are joining us virtually now on the screen. There we are—nice to see you again. Okay, excellent. I was going to ask a few general questions about the background to…
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Bus and coach net zero - briefing by the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT)
Welcome back to this meeting of the Climate Change, Environment and Infrastructure Committee. We'll move now to our next item in this morning's meeting, which is a technical briefing from the Confederation of Passenger Transport on the findings of its recent…
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Carbon Budget 1 and Net Zero Wales
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you. And the committee will, on that wonderful note, break for 10 minutes, and we'll reconvene for a 10:40 start. Diolch yn fawr.
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Carbon Budget 1 and Net Zero Wales
And I think Jenny wants to add a little—.
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Carbon Budget 1 and Net Zero Wales
Thank you very much. That perfectly brings us to the end of our allotted time slot. Can I thank you, Lord Deben, for your attendance this morning, along with your officials? It's been alluded to earlier that this is likely to be your last appearance before us…
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Carbon Budget 1 and Net Zero Wales
Excellent. Thank you. We'll move on to Joyce.
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Carbon Budget 1 and Net Zero Wales
Thank you. There we are; okay, Huw.
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Carbon Budget 1 and Net Zero Wales
Yes, but Janet, had you been listening, those issues had already been addressed earlier in the session, I'm afraid.