, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Yes, you're right. You're right.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Okay. Thank you, Joyce. Back to Janet then. Oh, I think we've—.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
And is that it, in essence, is it?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Yes. I tend to think that there are only three ways that you can close a gap, really. Either the Government gives you more money, or you do less, or they allow you to generate more of your own income, or probably a little bit of each.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Yes, okay. Thank you. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
No. Well, it never is, but particularly now.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
So, anything more is itemised, and there's a price tag, potentially, attached to it.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Yes. And that's the advantage for you, I suppose, isn't it? You can effectively itemise.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Sure. To what extent is this going to be a dynamic, ongoing process from now on, or is it going to be revisited every few years?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
I don't want us to just not come back to the baseline review, because it's been exercising the minds of many members of this committee for a long time. Why has it taken so long? Now, I appreciate that it's an intricate process and it needs to be done…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Yes, well, we're not afraid of details, don't worry. [Laughter.] In fact, the more detail the better.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
So, the SLAs wouldn't be publicly available as such, would they—sorry?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Yes. But there we are—one day at a time. Okay. Thank you for that. I'll now invite Janet to lead us on the next set of questions.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Because it will hold a lot of things back if we—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
There's a wider issue there, I think, that we as a committee might want to consider.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Yes, it is.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
And these are, you would hope, growth sectors as well, regardless of—. We will need more boots on the ground.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Sure. Yes, absolutely. Huw, you wanted to come in on that.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Sure. Okay. As I say, we'll come back to that in greater detail in a minute. Before moving on, I just wanted to ask you about the performance report and some of the measures that were classed as red at the end of 2021-22, but also end of quarter 2 2022-23…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
At least, I’d imagine.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
We’ll come on to the baseline review in detail later on, but I’m just wondering, in terms of the corporate plan, really, to what extent is that being tempered by the funding reality? Is that limiting ambition and aspiration?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales
Right. Welcome back to this meeting of the Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee at Senedd Cymru. We will move now to this final item for this afternoon, which is annual scrutiny of Natural Resources Wales. We welcome our witnesses: Clare…
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Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 6,7,8,9,10 and 12 of today's meeting
We'll pause for a moment, as we move into private session.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 6,7,8,9,10 and 12 of today's meeting
There we are. Okay. Thank you very much.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 6,7,8,9,10 and 12 of today's meeting
So, the next item is to resolve to exclude the public and to move into private session. So, I propose in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi) and (ix) that the committee resolves to meet in private for the remainder of the meeting, except, of course, for…