, Plenary
The Packaging Waste (Data Collection and Reporting) (Wales) Regulations 2023
Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Thank you very much, Huw, for your contribution. As I outlined in my opening remarks, the sole purpose of the regulations is to enable the collection and reporting of data to inform the calculation of producer fees in the extended…
, Plenary
The Packaging Waste (Data Collection and Reporting) (Wales) Regulations 2023
I thank the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee for its work in scrutinising this statutory instrument. These regulations are required so that packaging producers collect and report data on the amount and type of packaging they place on the…
, Plenary
The Packaging Waste (Data Collection and Reporting) (Wales) Regulations 2023
I move the motion.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
Indeed. Diolch.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
—and at that point we weren't sure that it was coming back at all.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
I'm more than happy to co-operate with that, but I do want the committee to understand that we absolutely want the scrutiny to happen, but that we are always trying to figure out when the optimal time to do it is, and this is a Bill that—. I think it's a bit…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
You may be aware of some others in my portfolio. Just to say, we do know the Report Stage has been delayed—I hope the committee knows that—until the autumn. So, things are not quite as pressed as we thought they were.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
So, that's not a matter for me; that's a matter for the First Minister. This isn't the only issue that's at issue with the inter-governmental protocols. So, the First Minister, I know, has a number of issues that are less than optimal, shall we say.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
For what it's worth, Chair, I would be more than happy to help work up a protocol for complex Bills of this sort, because in all honesty you don't want us to lay a rapid series of supplementary LCMs as amendments come through, because you're debating…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
I completely accept that having a better protocol for a Bill with this kind of history—and I fear this isn't going to be the last one, either—is necessary, and I'm more than happy to participate in a discussion about how would the committee and the Senedd…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
We had to wait to see whether the Bill was actually going to do anything. So if you start from there, you end up with a big gap in the middle of it, where we're not even sure it's happening. And then, as I explained, we're having an argument with the UK…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
I've set out the history of it. I mean, the Bill was halted, basically, so we weren't at all sure it was coming back—
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
Well, I think saying we haven't troubled ourselves to do it is a bit rich.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
As I say, Alun, though, if we knew it was coming, we'd have the ability to do it. But, obviously, we don't have people sitting around with nothing to do, waiting for the UK Government to dump a Bill on us.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
If you are going to raise it, can I just add to it, then? The point being that, if you have notice in advance of a big Bill coming, you can tool up for it, effectively; you can ask for more resources. But if you're just dumped on it—you know, we have a team…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
We wouldn't know the detail of Scottish devolution, but in terms of energy generation, it's a lot simpler in Scotland.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
Yes, because who controls the inshore waters and who controls the 12 to 200 miles, for example, and whether we have any say over the 12 to 200 miles or not, is not clear at all. It's clear we do have competence over the inshore waters, but this Bill reaches…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
The letter I've referred to is the letter I sent to the UK Government alongside the laying of the LCM, so you're familiar with that already. I've made a number of representations to the Secretary of State for BEIS, as it was then, and the Secretary of State…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
It’s really hard for us to say, isn’t it? It’s a new department, so it could be that people are being brought together from across—. Or I can speculate, but it would be speculation; I don’t really know. But it’s not normal for it to be like this. It’s…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
Well, I didn't say that no engagement took place at all. I said that it took place very late after the Bill had been largely drafted and that I would have expected to have been involved in the run-up to the Bill, not involved once the Bill has been submitted…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
There are new sections as well in the Bill, so we're going to have to put a supplementary LCM to you. We're going to work on that as soon as possible, but this isn't even the end stage, I'm afraid. So, this is an ongoing—. I mean, there's just nothing good to…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
Yes, I completely and utterly accept that. So, part of the complexity, forgive me, has been in trying to understand where the devolution settlement is in this and what parts of it are engaged. Assuming you accept our view, it's slightly easier, but I do…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
The Welsh Government’s legislative consent memorandum on the Energy Bill: Scrutiny session with the Minister for Climate Change
Diolch, Cadeirydd. It's good to be with you. I'm afraid, I do need to give you a short history of how we got here since that's very germane to the question in point. So, the Bill was first introduced back when Kwasi Kwarteng was the Secretary of State for the…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Diolch, Cadeirydd.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Just on the Minister of Crown consents, that's actually by Stage 3 that we would need that, because if it hasn't come through by Stage 3, we will have to put amendments into the Bill to make sure that it functions without them. But there's no reason to think…
