, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 2
Jane Dodds. Oh, sorry. Joel James, you wanted to come in on this specifically.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 2
Thank you. Sioned Williams.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 2
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee, and we're now going to have our third session on the governance of fire and rescue services, and I'm very pleased to welcome Peter Crews, branch secretary of Cwm Taf local government branch, which…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
The committee will now take a break until 1 o'clock, when we'll resume with hearing from Unison. So, if Members could come back just at, say, 12.55 p.m.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you.
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Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you. Thank you very much indeed, both, for your evidence. We'll send you a transcript, just to make sure that we've captured your information correctly, and, obviously, please do correct it if we've got it wrong. And we want to thank you both for your…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Okay. But you would agree that no change is not an option, given what we already know.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you very much for that clarification. Mr Griffiths, do you want to add anything?
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Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you. I just want to pick up on the point Mr Wrack was making earlier about the need for a much more long-term vision of what the role of the fire and rescue service might look like, and closer working relations with medical colleagues in the ambulance…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Very good. Moving on to Joel James.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Yes. Matt.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Some of this has already been covered by Matt, I think. Is there anything either of you want to add?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
It's fine. Thank you for that. Ken Skates.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you. Before I call in Ken Skates, can I just clarify, Mr Griffiths, whether, when you're talking about part-time firefighters, are you talking about people who are retained, who have other jobs, who are in rural areas?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you. Jane.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Joel, do you want—? A quick one.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you. Can I call in Jane Dodds now?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
You have covered this in part already, but obviously you're very welcome to expand on it.
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Yes.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Yes, you've already told us that. It's really about what now, what next.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Yes.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
I think it's how can these concerns be addressed, because we have already covered that you have these concerns. So, if you could focus your answer on that.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Thank you. Sioned Williams.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Governance of Fire and Rescue Services: panel 1
Okay.