, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
Okay. I just want to go back to the accuracy of the statistics because we've been told by other stakeholders that 45 per cent of households are now living in fuel poverty, or their houses are in fuel poverty. So, that's from National Energy Action Cymru. And…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
Jane Dodds wanted to come in.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
Okay. Sioned Williams wanted to come in.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
But, by using the housing conditions survey of 2017-18, this is based on hopelessly out-of-date assessments of where we're at, and I think we're struggling to understand how the interim targets will be fit for purpose if we're using such old data.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
Thank you very much indeed. Excellent. Well, I'll start off, if I may. Jane Hutt, in your response to our 2022 report on fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme, you said in your response that the revised plan would be published in 2023, along with interim…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
Yes. Hello. And which department are you from?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
Okay. Very good. Do we have another official online? Is that Claire Germain?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session with Cabinet Secretaries
We'll now move on to our final session on fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme. We're very pleased to welcome Jane Hutt, the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip, and Jayne Bryant, the Cabinet Secretary for Housing and Local…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
Good afternoon. This is the Equality and Social Justice Committee meeting, and today we're discussing fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme. I've had no apologies; all Members are present. Are there any declarations of interest? Thank you.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. Thank you.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. I just wanted to—. I understand that you're saying that it's very difficult to get apprenticeships in things that haven't been invented yet, but how do we ensure that employers' skills development plans are smart in understanding the risks and the…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Diolch. So, what's your strategy, then, for ensuring that employers aren't just putting their heads in the sand and not thinking about the changes that are coming down the road and to have a work development plan that is going to enable them to stay in…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Yes.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. I'd be grateful if you could send us a note on the detail on that.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. We're short of time, so I think a note on this would be really useful: so, which local authorities are funding FE colleges, and which are just leaving it up to the family, which, obviously, is a huge social justice issue.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. But, ultimately, it's down to the agility of schools and colleges to devise curriculum offers that suit the needs of all learners. There's a reason why they're on these junior apprenticeships—that's because the core curriculum isn't suiting their needs…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay, so why haven't we got them covering the whole of Wales? Because there's nothing in north Wales, for example.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. I want to look at the success of the junior apprenticeship scheme, which is offered in five colleges. What have been the outcomes in terms of retaining people to move on to the next level? I think this is probably one for Careers Wales. So, is it Amie…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 2 - Colleges and Apprenticeship Providers
No, no, electric bikes will get you up any hill.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 2 - Colleges and Apprenticeship Providers
They might be misused by parts of other sectors.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 2 - Colleges and Apprenticeship Providers
No, we don't, but I just think—
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 2 - Colleges and Apprenticeship Providers
It was on something that was mentioned in passing by one of you around the transport requirement to get to the training. Dr Walters, you obviously run a college in a rural area. What consideration has been given to supplementing whatever public transport…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 2 - Colleges and Apprenticeship Providers
Okay.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 2 - Colleges and Apprenticeship Providers
Okay, so that’s down to the employer having a really clear progression pathway for all their employees.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 2 - Colleges and Apprenticeship Providers
Okay, so stick with social care.
