9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod
Under Standing Order 17.42, I propose that we go into private session now for the remainder of our meeting. Is everybody happy? I don't see any dissent, so, yes, we'll go into private session. Thank you.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
That brings us to a conclusion, unless anybody has got any other questions for Peter and the team. That leaves me just to thank you very much for your time this morning and shortly into this afternoon. I wish you well with the Bill, Peter, and we will be…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you very much. I'll bring Rhianon in at this point. Can we unmute Rhianon, please? There we are. Lovely.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
I'm just conscious of time. Have you got something briefly you wanted to say?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
I know Tyler wants to come in, but just on the points you were talking about there, you were saying that consultation and developing a Bill is also about making some assumptions. When it comes to staffing costs, did you assume local authority pay scales or…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
She was questioning how much engagement you'd had and what information you'd been able to glean from that, I think, from my recollection of this morning.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Just on that—you may be coming on to this yourself, Sam—but we heard from the Minister this morning two or three times that she wasn't sure how much engagement you'd had with authorities. I just wondered if you wanted to comment on that.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you. Right. Thank you. Sam, would you like to take over?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay. Just on the social value and the return on investment, Mike, I just wondered if I could just jump in there and say: have you attempted to model any of the possible benefits? You talked about the other benefits earlier. You haven't quantified those, as…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you very much. Mike, I'll bring you in now.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay, thank you. A final question from me, and then I'll go over to Mike. In the RIA, you quantify the costs of the current four commissioners in Wales to a range of between £1.5 million and £3.1 million, but you say that the scope of the Government's…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
It was more of a smoothing out, then, was it?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you. Just briefly, you spend half the commission's cost in the first year of the transition costs. Can you explain your rationale for this and why you assume that the costs to establish and operate the food commission in the first year will be then the…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay. Tyler, did you want to come in?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay, thank you. So, given the significant resources required to establish and operate a food commission, why do you think it would represent value for money?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Yes. So, is that why there's no detailed breakdown of the cost of the food commission in the RIA?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
So, you've estimated that the costs of establishing the food commission would be between £750,000 and £1.5 million annually. Can you explain why there's such a large range of costs, and does this reflect the uncertainty around the skill and scope of the food…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Wonderful. Thank you very much. As you'll be aware, there'll be a transcript available for you for this and translation is available as well. So, we'll move on to questions. I think we've got an hour or so with you, so we'll crack on. We've got a fair bit to…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
It's good to see you, Peter, on that side of the table, rather than as part of the committee, but welcome. Would you be able to introduce yourself for the record and your officials as well, please?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Croeso nôl ar gyfer ein hail sesiwn ni y bore yma. Rydyn ni yma efo Peter Fox, y Member in charge o'r Bil.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
So, diolch yn fawr. Awn ni i mewn i breifat.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes, being aspirational and being able to have a goal of where you're going to, and not as a stick to beat somebody up with, it's more to do with having a driver to take things forward. So, I'd echo your thoughts there, because I very much come from a…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Just going to something you said a couple of minutes ago—and I'll finish on this—you said that you'd had conversations with Peter around procurement policy and that that was something that you were interested in and exploring. Do you think there's a benefit…
