11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Bwrdd Taliadau Annibynnol y Senedd
Croeso nôl i'r sesiwn yma. Rydyn ni rŵan yn mynd i mewn i sesiwn gyda'r remuneration board.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o'r cyfarfod ar gyfer eitemau 5 a 7
Yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42, dwi'n cynnig ein bod ni rŵan yn mynd i mewn i sesiwn breifat ar gyfer eitemau 5 a 7. Felly, fe wnawn ni fynd yn breifat, os ydy pawb yn hapus. Gwych. Diolch yn fawr.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay. Thank you so much for this morning, and for your answers. Obviously, you are confident that the information that you have provided to the Government for this Bill is as good as it can be within the parameters. Thank you very much for that.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Diolch. You talked earlier about—and I think it was in answer to Peter Fox's question—full-time equivalents for Commission were less than that for additional Members, due to assumptions that some changes in working practices would be necessary. Can you just…
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
We've got known knowns, and we've got known unknowns, and we've got unknown unknowns, if you look at it like that. So, you've been able to cost the known knowns, you've made a good assumption on the known unknowns, and that's where the modelling comes in. Can…
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay. I think that's going to be—. Have you got any further questions, Peter?
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay. And what dialogue did you have with the Welsh Government regarding the potential costs of Members' job share? Have you looked at any of that in your modelling?
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okey dokes. Just looking at how the Commission ensured that the financial implications of the Bill were complete, and looking at things like job sharing and things that are coming down the line as well, your estimate for Members’ travel expenses reflects a…
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
I've got—. Mike Hedges has arrived. That's excellent. Hello, Mike. I'm sorry you've had a bad journey to work this morning, but I'm just wondering if you've got any questions yourself. I know you haven't listened to all of this session, but whether or not…
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Thank you. Alun.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay. Thank you. Sorry.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
So, it's a prudent measure—?
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
But I'm just thinking, reality on day one, potentially, could be at the bottom of the band, and, over time, move to the middle?
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Just on that point, you talked about the middle, the average. Am I right in saying that new staff normally come in at the bottom of the band, and going over time, so that's why you've possibly taken an average rather than a—?
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Ken, do you want to come in on that?
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay, thank you very much. That's it from me. I'll move on to Peter, if I may.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Yes, I'm just making sure that when we see your budget, we'll be able to easily see how much this change is costing, so that we can properly scrutinise what's going on. And, obviously, the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee then, as the money…
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay. So—. Ken, did you want—?
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Okay. So, the RIA notes that cost savings have not been identified for the Commission, similar to what Alun was saying earlier, and benefits could not be monetised. What analysis did you undertake to determine potential savings and identify quantifiable…
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
So, is that the main difference or have things like inflation and that sort of thing come in too? Because, obviously, we've had a very different financial outlook now from what was there previously.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Yes, what use, sorry.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Diolch. So, moving on a little bit, what did you use to make the cost estimates published by the expert panel in November 2017 and the Committee on Senedd Electoral Reform in September 2020 to ensure the completeness and accuracy of the financial implications…
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Sorry, I don't know if Ken wants to come in, because obviously, you're nodding away.
11 Hydref 2023 , Finance Committee
Bil Senedd Cymru (Aelodau ac Etholiadau): Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chomisiwn y Senedd
Alun, did you want to come in?