25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you very much indeed. A very brief question, if I may, from me, before I bring in our next questioner. I'm pleased to hear you use the term 'co-production' repeatedly. What is your definition of 'co-production'?
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. Thank you. Could I now invite Natasha Asghar to take up the questions?
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay, thank you. Can I just ask a very quick supplementary before I bring in the next questioner? I think in Rhiannon Ivens's answers she referred to the fact that, as people move from direct payments to CHC, you're looking to directly employ personal…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
You're on silent, Rhiannon. Right.
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Can I just apologise at this point? I introduced our colleague as Mabon ab Owen; it's actually Mabon ap Gwynfor. I apologise.
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. Could I now bring, please, Mabon ab Owen in to pick up the questions?
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. Would you be able to share the figures that ultimately the independent group produce with us? I particularly, for example, would be interested to know what the impact might be on somebody who owns a house with an average value in Wales as their…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. Thank you. My final question at this point: you'll no doubt be aware of the UK Government's plans around residential care costs in England to be implemented in the future; what are the Welsh Government's views on how the position in Wales would compare…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
So, new arrangements in place for 2024-25. Okay. No doubt we will be considering that as the timescale moves forward and revisit it as appropriate. How are you ensuring the bigger questions about a national care service don't divert attention from driving…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. And am I to understand that Mike Hedges may have already departed? Okay. I'll assume he has, and I'll move on with my next set of questions, then. It's more than a year now since its White Paper consultation, and, therefore, what are your views on…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. Well, while we're waiting, could your colleague, therefore, formally introduce himself and his title for the record?
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. Thank you. I'm conscious that one of our Members, Mr Hedges, has to leave temporarily, at 10:30 a.m. Could I suggest that, before I move on with the next set of questions, I invite Mike Hedges to ask his, and then I'll come back to the questions as on…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Well, certainly, we have taken evidence from Age Cymru, who, whilst acknowledging what you say, identified the need for continued improvement in this area. But, looking ahead, what do you consider, and what does the Welsh Government consider, to be the…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
How are you, if it all, ensuring that the voice of experience, the services user's voice, is heard in this? As you'll be aware, there have been a series of reports, published by a number of representative bodies over recent years, highlighting not only what's…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. What specific monitoring and evaluation does the Welsh Government itself undertake, not just to criticise, but to ensure understanding, and to support and encourage implementation, and also to intervene if it's not working as it should…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. Well, evidence we've received in other contexts, including other work by Audit Wales, and evidence certainly I've received on a regular basis as a Member and chair of, for example, the cross-party group on disability and the cross-party autism…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you, and I believe you have a colleague who hopes to join us a little bit later. As you'd expect, we have a number of questions, and I'd be grateful if Members and witnesses could be as succinct as possible so we can cover as wide a range of the issues…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
We're in public. Thank you very much indeed. Croeso. Welcome back. Again, could I invite the witnesses to state their names and roles for the record?
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. I'd be grateful, then, clerking team, if you could take us back into closed session for five minutes, and if we can reconvene at 10:05. Thank you.
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Do you have any indicative time frame for that? Should we pause for a few minutes, or, if it's likely to take longer, had we better move on with you alone?
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Comisiynu Cartrefi Gofal i Bobl Hŷn: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Right, well, that brings us back to our care home commissioning for older people inquiry, based upon the parallel report by Audit Wales, and our fifth evidence session on this with witnesses from the Welsh Government. So, I welcome the witnesses to the…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Thank you very much indeed.
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Thank you. Well, I was copied in on a letter—I won't name the person who sent it to me, but I'm sure you could be copied in on it by our clerking team—it's dated 18 May, and it includes this paragraph by the person who sent it: 'Following the receipt of your…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Thank you very much indeed. On a related matter, the committee has also been copied in a letter sent by Healthcare Inspectorate Wales's interim chief executive, Alun Jones, which noted that discussions had taken place with Audit Wales on Betsi Cadwaladr…
25 Mai 2022 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Fay, is that okay with you?