9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Yes.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Thank you. Right. Joyce.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
We do indeed. Great. Thank you. Huw, on this, and then we'll move on then. Joyce will take us on to—.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
And for monitoring as well, there's a practical challenge of mobile phone signals for some, because you can't—. I was involved in one case and there was no point putting a monitor on it, because it couldn't speak to anything. But, anyway, that's a whole…
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
And, of course, those are the overflows that we know about, because there are others, aren't there, that obviously we don't?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
So, what are we doing to stop it happening in the first place, basically?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
And I know Jenny wants to pursue, maybe, a few questions on phosphate, but I'm just mindful we've moved on a little bit. I just wanted to offer Janet the opportunity to come back on the sewage stuff as well, before we then come back to phosphate.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Huw wants to come in on this specifically, and I'll come back to you, Janet, afterwards.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
And there's a wider discussion—
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Yes. Sewage.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Thank you for that. So—
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay, let's deal with the first point first then and then we'll come on to the other one. And there is a fair point—I mean, there may be perverse consequences to raising fees, which may actually work against some of your wider goals.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Yes, sure.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Thank you so much. There we are. Okay. Janet.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Joyce wants to come in on this as well, and then we'll come to Janet.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Fine.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Fine. Well, we'll wait and see, then, what comes of that. Thank you, Huw. Jenny.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Of course.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Yes. No, we haven't got that far yet, Janet. I'm slow here now. So, Huw is next. Sorry.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Yes, you're right. You're right.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Okay. Thank you, Joyce. Back to Janet then. Oh, I think we've—.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
And is that it, in essence, is it?
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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Yes. I tend to think that there are only three ways that you can close a gap, really. Either the Government gives you more money, or you do less, or they allow you to generate more of your own income, or probably a little bit of each.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Yes, okay. Thank you. Joyce.
9 Chwefror 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwaith craffu blynyddol ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
No. Well, it never is, but particularly now.
