29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
I'm aware that capacity was one of the areas that we were hoping to cover later on. I'm not sure, Huw, if there was anything you wanted to add at this point, or have we covered it sufficiently?
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Who wants to address that one first? Craig.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Yes, and that echoes, certainly, points that have been made previously specifically on that, and I think it is a very valid issue to raise. Thank you so much. Okay, we'll move on to Janet, then.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Yes. One little word has very far-reaching consequences in legislation. You're right; that's an excellent point, actually. It's one that we probably will raise directly later on with the Minister. Craig, you wanted to say something.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Yes, Judith to start.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you. There's a lot there, actually. I know some of those areas we will be coming back to in greater detail. So, just sticking with the proposed list, then, for a minute, no glaring omissions and no major red flags as you see it, albeit it's all part of…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
No problem at all—yes. And when we do ask questions, you're not both obliged to answer all of our questions; it's always whoever is most relevant or most keen to answer.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Croeso nôl i gyfarfod Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, Amgylchedd a Seilwaith y Senedd. Rŷn ni'n parhau, wrth gwrs, gyda'r gwaith o graffu y Bil Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru), ac rŷn ni am glywed gan gynrychiolwyr nesaf o lywodraeth leol…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Excellent. Thank you. Well, I think that brings us to the end of our questioning. Can I thank you both for being with us this morning? You will be sent a copy of the draft transcript, just to check for accuracy, and, of course, as I mentioned, we will have…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Excellent. Okay. Those are points that we can raise directly with the Minister when she joins us later on this morning. Huw isn't sure whether he wants to come in on something. Go on then, Huw. Go on.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. I was just wondering—. It is quite a big question, really, but the Government does have a clear policy intent in terms of why it's bringing this Bill forward, and, taken as a whole, do you believe that the Bill as proposed actually meets that and…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. Okay. So, I suppose, finally, the six-million-dollar question is that there's a clear policy intent here in terms of the Government. Do you believe that the Bill actually delivers on that policy intent?
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. So, we know obviously this is a very rapidly developing area of technology, isn't it? There are always new innovations and new products coming online. I'm just wondering whether there's a risk that, in compensating for a ban, that alternative products…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
But there we are. Okay, we hear that message loud and clear. Over to Joyce, then.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes, and that actually chimes with the evidence we had from the Federation of Small Businesses last week in terms of maybe this is one part of the jigsaw, isn't it, this Bill, and this proposed ban. And of course, if a ban is introduced this year, and then…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. And what about potential cross-border issues, then, relating to the ban? Is there anything there that you feel may be an issue or may need to be mitigated?
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
No, but more generally I was just thinking that's just one example of how this Bill could have a direct impact on industry in Wales in terms of the plastic sector. I'm just thinking if there's anything else that stands out in the Bill that is maybe cause for…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
The mention of wet wipes there is useful, because we've had evidence from Kimberly-Clark that they're developing a plastic-free wet wipe, which will potentially be produced in north-east Wales. That brings me on, really, to the question about whether there's…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Diolch yn fawr. Thank you. Janet.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Thank you, Delyth. Huw.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Thank you. Delyth.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. Thank you very much for that. Joyce.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. And actually, not to go off on a tangent, but the Scottish legislation is different, isn't it, because that actually bans manufacture, whereas in Wales the focus in on supply. So, would you have a view on that, then? Clearly, you would, I'd imagine.
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
So, that's a change again, I suppose, isn't it? Okay, thank you for that. Can I just pick up on—? There's a list in the Bill of products to be banned, but next to that there's a list of certain exemptions. I'm just wondering whether you had any particular…
29 Medi 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil Drafft Diogelu'r Amgylchedd (Cynhyrchion Plastig Untro) (Cymru) - sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. We don't always remember to take the shopping plastic bags with us, but maybe that's down to—
