13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Very briefly, then, if you would, Tim. Thank you.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Thank you. The Deputy Minister told us that the White Paper was co-produced with local government and the bus industry. I'm just wondering specifically how Welsh Government engaged with you, and whether your views were actually taken on board…
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Thank you, Tim. Roger.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Before I ask Roger whether he's up for it, I'll ask Jenny to come in.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Tim initially, then we'll come to Roger.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
That's an interesting and useful parallel, actually. Thank you for that. Okay. Joyce.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Roger.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
I think maybe Government are guilty of creating unrealistic expectations as well in publishing these very colourful sort of underground-like maps across north Wales, and people expecting things to happen maybe sooner than is realistic. Okay. Thank you for…
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
And that is all rail focused as well, of course, isn't it, which comes back to the point about an emphasis on buses. Chris, you wanted to pick up on that.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
So, you wouldn't recognise a suggestion that maybe some parts of Wales are slightly feeling behind the curve on this? Because, obviously, we see what's happening in Cardiff and the wider city region there, and people maybe feel that north Wales, for example…
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Who wants to respond initially to this?
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Yes, and that was an important point made in your written evidence, if I recall. Okay. We'll move on, if we may, to metros, and Janet, you're going to lead us on this.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Roger, do you have a view on that, given that, obviously, we're looking at a similar footprint, aren't we, in terms of the corporate joint committee in your area?
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Yes, I know. I was just saying it for the benefit of the public that are probably listening, hopefully. Okay, does anybody else want to respond to that from Joyce? Joyce, do you want to—
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Yes. So, strategic development plans is what we mean when we say SDP.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
And SDPs are the strategic development plans.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Tim.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay, thank you. We are short on time now, because there are a lot of areas. We want to get on to the metros, we want to talk a bit more about the White Paper, there's highway maintenance as well that we need to cover. So, I'll come to Joyce now for the next…
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Yes, okay. Chris, do you want to come in?
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Roger.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Huw wants to pick up on this, and then maybe I'll come back to Roger to conclude on this.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Now you're talking. Yes, absolutely. Okay, Chris.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Thank you. Huw.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Chris. Yes, please.
13 Gorffennaf 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Teithio ar fysiau a’r rheilffordd yng Nghymru - sesiwn dystiolaeth 4
Okay. Thank you. We're about halfway through our time and I think we've barely covered a third of the areas that we were hoping to pursue, so we'll try to change gear a little bit. I'll invite Delyth now to do just that, I hope.
