17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
No. Nothing.
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Thanks, Janet. My understanding is that, because of the working relationships between ourselves and the UK Government, actually, the chemicals and pesticides policy area was first up in drafting the interim arrangements during the EU exit process. So, very…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Well, so they can't go anywhere, that's the point. So, if we're saying that a product can't be used or sold in Wales as part of our air quality or pesticide and chemical control, then it can't. In terms of the kind of conversation about how will that interact…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Well, yes. So, yes, and we have asked for—separate to these frameworks, we have asked for a seat on some of the committees that negotiate some of the international co-operation agreements, but that's separate to the frameworks. But we certainly would like an…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes. So, international relations are obviously not devolved, Chair, as you know, but the framework, it covers international commitments like the Stockholm convention and so on. So, it affirms that the devolved Governments are fully involved in the formulation…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, yes—the short answer to that is 'yes'. So, again, it doesn't engage our devolved competence, so if we want to ban something or restrict its use or whatever, that's something we can do. I'm sure the committee is very well aware that there's an outstanding…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
The REACH system is one of the things that we've put in place in order to substitute for what used to be in place with the European Union. The point I was making, really, was that it's highly technical, so I get ministerial advice saying that a chemical I…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
No. And, you know, I don't know quite how to frame this—. So, the whole point of these frameworks is to head off that kind of political announcement-type thing actually having effect in the way that perhaps it might be thought. So, these frameworks are put in…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, so far, Huw, the direction of travel has been good in all the frameworks, so all four Governments are wanting to reduce the use of chemicals and pesticides and improve the air quality of the UK. So, so far, we haven't had any difficulty in any of those…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Well, I can't emphasise enough that they're new. So, you know, we may be coming back to the committee at some later date.
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
I'm not aware of any problems, Huw. Let me just check with the officials. There are problems with the UK Internal Market Act in other areas, but not because—. The frameworks—. The interaction between the frameworks and the UK Internal Market Act has been…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, obviously, that's a matter for us. We need to come back to the committee and talk about our air quality plans overall. That's not an impact for the intra-national framework, and, obviously, we've got a piece of work going on on air quality in Wales, which…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Sorry, Janet. The internal Welsh one you're talking about there, or the—?
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, the whole point of the framework is to stop derailments, if you want to characterise it in that way. That's kind of the whole point of the framework. So, the whole point of the framework is to allow us all to have our legislative competence unfettered…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, that's the sort of thing I would very much anticipate would come up through the officials' working groups, so if we were trying to ban for sale something in Wales that was manufactured in England and there was some kind of issue, it would come up through…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Not at all, we hope, because, obviously, they're supposed to be drafted in harmony with the other Acts, and the whole point of this is to agree what the international frameworks look like and what our contribution is. So, it remains to be seen, because it's a…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Sorry, say that again, Delyth.
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, very confident. Again, just to reiterate, the majority of the air quality functions fall within the devolved competence of Welsh Ministers, so the framework as a whole acknowledges that, it acknowledges where Executive functions are exercisable by Welsh…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes, exactly, Huw. So, as Olwen has said, there are a range of working groups on both sides that we're completely enmeshed in. Part of that is to learn from each other as well. I think we'd all probably publicly say we were going in the same direction; we all…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Well, there is a complex set of things there, isn't there? So, first of all, obviously the English Government, as it would be acting in that capacity, is allowed to have a framework for its own use of pesticides and chemicals. We would know that, because they…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes, so, there are two different points there, Joyce. So, each of the four Governments can legislate in their respective nation, according to their devolution status. So, chemicals and pesticides, such as you mention, are fully devolved to Wales. So it's for…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes, so, in regard to air quality and chemical and pesticide control, that's right—the framework is agreed between us. We have to then adhere to its tenets obviously. There's a dispute resolution process. So, presumably, if one of us doesn't like it, we can…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes.
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, just on that, Jenny, obviously, the Northern Irish Government is part of the four Government framework for this, and it would be for them to highlight any issues that they thought were occurring on the direct land border between them and the European…
17 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Fframweithiau Cyffredin Dros Dro: Ansawdd Aer, a Chemegion a Phlaladdwyr—sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
I don't know, Delyth. Let me just see if either of the officials knows the answer to that. This is largely mirroring EU regulations at a UK level, just to be clear. But I'll see if either of them—. Neither of them is anxious to come in, so I suspect we don't…
