3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay. We still have a finite resource, which is water, which we all need, and you're still allowing a lot of this water to just disappear into the sea.
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
I just want to look at the regulatory framework in the context of all this. Because both of you have waxed lyrical on the importance of nature-based solutions, and, absolutely, nobody's in disagreement about that. But how much is it the fact that we have this…
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you.
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay, thank you. James, how do you compare?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
So, how much has the installation of the event and duration monitors on nearly all your areas where there is potential for storm overflows—? How much has that driven your much improved self-reporting?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you.
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Sticking with Dŵr Cymru, and I'll come to Hafren in a minute, I think I heard the previous witnesses say that you're obliged to report unregulated overflows, and you do so now in about 80 per cent of cases. That's what I understood them to say. So, I wondered…
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay. I just wanted to challenge you on this business of climate change. We talk a lot about flooding, and that's absolutely right, but if you look at the global picture, water is the new gold, and yet you companies are allowing—. It's like flushing £50 notes…
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I just wanted to highlight what Hafren have put in their paper, which I know Dŵr Cymru are worried about too, which is illegal connections going on because of the inadequate planning enforcement, and I just wondered: how does that fit into the road map for…
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I would suggest that 'maybe' is not the operable word, because we know that the housing and the big house builders—they only build the same old, same old, unless you force them to do something different. So, you haven't yet had conversations, then, on this…
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
We've discussed that already. I appreciate that's appalling. I want to focus on what we're doing in the built environment to stop all that valuable rainwater from going into the sewage system.
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I'd like to move on to discuss your development of a road map for storm overflows. Hafren Dyfrdwy suggest that nature-based solutions should be the first choice to address environmental challenges, yet sustainable drainage systems schemes like Greener…
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. Thank you.
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. How many penalties have you imposed in the last 10 years?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
So—
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
So, having put them on report, what transformation has taken place?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay, Mark.
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. So, in the case of our two water companies, have you, at any point in the last 10 years, felt the need to either reprimand them or prosecute them?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Thank you for that information. Mr Black, could you tell us what role you have in the action taken against polluters? Are you simply being provided with this information? What exactly is your role in ensuring that polluters don't repeat this?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. Could you tell us about any action that's been taken against a polluter since that time?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. I don't know if you can write to us about the number of breaches you've investigated since the wake-up call around—
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Right. Thank you very much for that useful information. Could you just tell us about the number of breaches that have been investigated and categories of spill since the Burry inlet incident?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
You're still on mute.
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Sure. No, I understand that. On whose insistence was it that monitors were installed at sewage treatment works? Was it Ofwat or was it the enforcement agency—in this case, NRW?
3 Chwefror 2022 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr a gollyngiadau carthion – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
What has changed to ensure that you know that companies are not doing this sort of thing?
