4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
Thank you. Joel James.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
Okay. Well, obviously there’s a role here for Senedd Members like us to ensure that there is continuous constructive dialogue and scrutiny of these matters as we go along. Anyway, I think we've probably explored this aspect of it and your concerns adequately…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
Okay. Obviously, we’re all in favour of joined-up government and decluttering of the alphabet soup. We’ve been told that, for example, there’ll be job descriptions—that the process for appointing these people around the table will be akin to a public…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
So, would you say that the explanatory memorandum linked to the two lines in the Bill is a fair summary of what we mean by fair work and that, therefore, if that was in some way strengthened in the Bill, that could lead to better outcomes than you are fearing?
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
But you seem to be pessimistic that this Bill, as currently constructed, is going to have any measurable impact, and there, obviously, are consequences—cost consequences of doing one thing, this Bill, as opposed to something else.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
Thank you. I just wanted to continue with the fair work clause and your concern that this isn't really going to lead anywhere. Clearly, there are limitations on the responsibilities of the Welsh Government and the devolved settlement that we have at the…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
Thank you very much. Sarah Murphy is going to pick up on the social partnership duty.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
Lovely, thank you very much indeed. So, moving on, the next person is Jane Dodds.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 6—Sefydliad Bevan
I'd like to welcome Members and the public back to our fourth and final session of the day on the Stage 1 process for the Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill. Our witness in this final session is Dr Victoria Winckler, the head of the Bevan…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Very good. Thank you very much indeed for your contributions. If there's anything additional that you want to say that we haven't had time to cover, please feel free to send us something in writing. In the meantime, you will get a transcript of what your…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Okay. Tom Hoyles.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Okay. I think one thing that you might want to respond to is whether this would improve the consultation with the workforce that's going to work in a new building, in terms of good design, or sick buildings, because if we don't design our places of work well…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Okay. Joel James, we have run out of time, but have you got a question that you'd like to just ask?
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Can I just pitch in and say that, the Size of Wales and the Welsh Centre for International Affairs has said that there ought to be a clause in there about global responsibilities when it comes to procurement? Is that something that any of your organisations…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Right. Well, we've heard so far that both employers and employees think this is a good idea, so hopefully we can take that forward. I'd like to move us on to socially responsible public procurement, and Peredur is going to lead the questions.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
So, is there something that we could use as a benchmark of progress of this Bill as described at the moment? What would you want to see after five years or 10 years of this Bill having been put in place?
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
I just want to briefly discuss the fair work clause in the Bill, and just really continue the theme that we've just been discussing. I mean, there are lots of ways in which we measure the performance of public bodies. One local authority repairs roads more…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Peredur.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Okay. Thank you. I'd like to pass over to Sarah Murphy, who's going to look at the social partnership duty.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Okay. Jane Dodds.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Okay. I wonder if you can send us a written note on what the costs and benefits will be. I'll bear in mind that one of our members chairs the Finance Committee, so I think this is important to tie down. Right, I would like to move us on at this point, and Ken…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Okay. Excellent. Very good. So, I'm just trying to struggle to understand—. Joel James, you're going to start the questions off.
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 5—undebau llafur (2)
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee, where we are continuing our Stage 1 scrutiny of the social partnership and public procurement Bill. Our third session is with Professor Phil Banfield from the British Medical Association; Mary…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 4—undebau llafur (1)
Thank you very much indeed, and thank you very much for your contributions. You will be sent a transcript of what your contributions are, and, obviously, this is your opportunity to amend any error of mishearing or misinterpretation of what you've actually…
4 Gorffennaf 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru): sesiwn dystiolaeth 4—undebau llafur (1)
Thank you for that clarification. Sorry. Somebody else wanted to come in at this point. Bethan, you wanted to come in.
