16 Ionawr 2023 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Cyllideb ddrafft 2023-24: sesiwn dystiolaeth weinidogol
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee and our ministerial scrutiny of the budget of the Minister and Deputy Minister in the social justice department. Welcome to Jane Hutt, the Minister for Social Justice, Hannah Blythyn, Deupty Minister…
16 Ionawr 2023 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(vi) a (ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o'r cyfarfod ar gyfer eitemau 4, 5, 6 ac 8
So, for now, I wondered if Members would be prepared to take a motion, under Standing Order 17.42, to exclude the public from items 4, 5, 6 and 8 of this meeting. For members of the public who are watching, we will be scrutinising the Minister for Social…
16 Ionawr 2023 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papurau i’w nodi
Okay, thank you. I was a member of the Bevan Foundation; not at the moment, because my budget's non-existent, but I'm also a member of Unite, but I'm not sure that there's anything relevant to today's agenda in relation to that matter.
16 Ionawr 2023 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papurau i’w nodi
And I wondered if Members could note the list of papers that are on the agenda for public scrutiny. Are there any points?
16 Ionawr 2023 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau a dirprwyon
Prynhawn da. Welcome to Members and to members of the public attending the first meeting of 2023 of the Equality and Social Justice Committee. Our main item of business this afternoon is scrutinising next year's budget, but, for the time being, I want to just…
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
Okay. Thank you.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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But while they're charging their cars, they're going to the shop, or having a meal in a cafe or whatever.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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Do you do much work with community councils? Because a lot of them have quite a lot of dosh, and they might think of that as an effective way of investing for the benefit of their community.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
Oh, right. So, they've not jumped on this as a serious opportunity for attracting business.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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So, you've never had dealings with Powys then, which, obviously, is a massive land mass.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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I haven't, but I'm sure others might have.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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I'm struggling to understand why, because you could do a local community renewable energy scheme and then you'd make some money for your community. What's not to like in all that?
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
Okay, thank you.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
Okay, fine, you said that already—I heard it.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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Okay. But there's nothing you could point to, even through Western Power Distribution, which you now own?
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
Okay, so, there's nothing in your business plan to use underused assets, say, in the middle of the night, to top up particular sites and then get it used, obviously, when people are actually moving around.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
Okay. But, what about—? Given that we're talking about the area of Wales that's not connected to the grid, or very poorly connected to the grid, what would be the strategy for combining community renewable generation and electricity storage? What role could…
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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Okay. So, as far as you're concerned, then, it's the role of Government to fill in that major hole in the EV network charging points.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
Okay. So, what would your strategy be for putting charging points on the A470, which is obviously the spine that connects north and south Wales?
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Gwefru cerbydau trydan - sesiwn dystiolaeth 3
But you had a successful business that's perfectly capable of enhancing its business model, whereas other communities might need a bit more of a helping hand.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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Okay. Thank you very much. I want to look at how we're spreading the good message and the advantages of having electric vehicles rather than simply just replicating existing models. So, Malcolm, you, in your paper, talk about using forecasting as to where…
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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That is a worry.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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As you've had all these conversations with local authorities, how come they aren't seeing it as a regeneration opportunity? Tourism is one of our main industries, and if you want to get people to come into Wales with their expensive electric vehicles, they're…
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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They've got dosh, a lot of them.
12 Ionawr 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
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Community councils.
