12 Mehefin 2023 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau
Good afternoon. Welcome to the Equality and Social Justice Committee, where we're continuing our inquiry into preventing gender-based violence. I've had apologies from Ken Skates, who may be able to join us in the latter part of our meeting if he's able to…
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Under papers to note, I'd like to highlight 4.3, where Bethan Sayed, on behalf of Climate Change Cymru, has written to us about the importance of an energy-efficiency scheme. Public money is tight. I note that Lord Deben is calling for that every house…
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Thank you.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay. Well, my final question would be around how we can see both public and private investments in nature's recovery so that we deliver on the COP15 agreement. Katie.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Sure. A no-brainer.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
—because we've got to somehow safeguard our nature and reverse the appalling trends.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
—because dairy farmers aren't paid enough. I get that. The supermarkets are just screwing them. But it's complicated, isn't it—
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay, so—
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
That's just like saying the oil industry can't afford to clean up the mess they make.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Well, then, don't go into that business.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay. I suppose the most urgent thing for us is that we are setting the right targets and that we're not rewarding people who are just making the climate and nature emergencies worse. So, the sustainable farming scheme has got to be purposed to delivering on…
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
—if they're fishing offshore, the fish don't—
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
We do inshore, indeed. But—
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay. So, this was supposed to be one of the benefits of leaving the EU, but, actually, we don't have the levers to control it, so—
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay, don't worry. We'll move on from that, but—
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Why doesn't this nature networks fund work like the facilitation fund you're talking about in England?
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Okay, thank you.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
That sounds as if the well-being of future generations Act never existed, and we have got collaboration baked into that.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 2
Yes, thank you. So, the Welsh Government's already said it's going to establish legally binding biodiversity targets, but clearly, we need to ensure that we've got those targets right. So, Tim, your paper is very interesting on ensuring that we're setting the…
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Thank you.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. Thank you. And Annie, briefly.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. Clearly, corporate Britain probably wants to be seen to be doing the right thing by nature—this is a cuddly thing these days. So, how do we ensure that—? Whether it's for restitution for damaging things they're doing elsewhere, how do we get better at…
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay. Fair enough.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Okay, all right. But I want to challenge you on this idea that designated landscape areas should get more money than other areas.
8 Mehefin 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bioamrywiaeth a’r argyfwng natur – sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. I wanted to pursue how public and private investment can be refocused following the COP15 agreement. On the one hand, Jonathan, you're arguing that more money should be spent around designated landscapes, because you argue that they're better able to…
