24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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Yes, I'm sure you are, and I'd be happy for the committee to receive that. In terms of moving on with COVID, all members of the panel were very clear earlier that additional funding from Welsh Government would be useful, and clearly that's fair enough. But…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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Well, I don't find that very convincing evidence, I have to say. But we'll leave it at that, because other members of the public seem perfectly able to understand it. I used COVID passes in Scotland on my summer holidays without any difficulty, so I'm not…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
I would be interested in that data, because the evidence you've given does chime with evidence we've received earlier this morning, but it is all anecdotal. And I do find it a bit odd—I'll be using my COVID pass this evening to go and watch Cardiff City…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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I would have anticipated that many of your venues would seek to ensure ID is used before entry in any case, wouldn't they?
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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Thank you. I want to return to the spectre at the feast, in terms of COVID. Could I start by—? I think the only member of the panel for whom this is probably relevant is Clara, in terms of COVID passes. Do any of your venues, or the venues you represent, have…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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Sorry, can I just confirm, then, that neither National Theatre Wales nor Creu Cymru are actually doing anything in this field to support and to sustain audiences and participation. If that's the case, that's fine, but let's be clear about that on the record.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
So, you haven't done anything so far.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
Perhaps you could write to us, if we've run out of time.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
Okay. Let's ask another question to all three panelists. I feel somewhat disappointed in some of your evidence. Rebecca has emphasised the independence of the arts council, and I agree with you: I don't want Ministers, or even jobbing backbenchers, taking…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
What advice is the arts council giving theatres on the COVID pass?
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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I get that. Although, I have to say, I've been to arts activities in my own constituency, which have been pretty full over the last month, or the last period.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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And how do you understand the intersection between the point that Diane makes, which I do find convincing—I do understand that, I accept that—and the COVID pass, which, as you say, is relatively recent? And we haven't seen the evidence of that elsewhere. So…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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I'm not interested in e-mails, quite frankly, because, you know, individuals—. I get hundreds of e-mails every day myself. I'm interested in data, because I think that is where you get the pattern across the country. And I think this is an important subject…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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I'm not sure I find that a very convincing argument, I have to say to you. First of all, because children, of course, don't require passes, and, secondly, we've just seen packed stadia for Wales playing international rugby, and it would be curious if the…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
Schools don't need COVID passes.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
Can I go back to COVID? It's the spectre at the feast, isn't it, so I may as well return to it. Louise, you said that there'd been a significant falling off of audience numbers, as a consequence, you believed, of the introduction of a COVID pass—about a…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
No, if you want to cover COVID following Heledd, then perhaps—
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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It can't be all of those things; I asked you an either/or question.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
Okay.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
I would say there was a tension.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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And I'm interested in that, because your response to the question I've just asked would indicate a tension, shall we say, because that strategy was all proactive, looking forward, setting strategies for the future, and what you've just said is that you would…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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I seem to remember you—correct me if I'm wrong—saying that you'd contributed to the Welsh Government's international strategy.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
But you would set those targets.
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Ymchwiliad undydd ar y diwydiannau celfyddydau a chreadigol
In answer to Tom's first question, you said, talking about the arts council, that you work with the Welsh Government on international issues. I'd like to understand more about that relationship. Does the Welsh Government set targets for you, do they fund…
24 Tachwedd 2021 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
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Yes, if I could, please.