, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Before I bring Elfed in for another question, the envelope there for that project fund is £2 million, and to say whether it's capital or revenue, there are different arguments. Is it reasonable to continue seeking that amount when part of the current plans in…
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay, thanks. Anything else, Ben?
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay, thanks. And if they're not recruited, that money goes back into the Welsh consolidated fund, I guess. Yes. Ben.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Can I just try to make that point really clear? I think in the report, if I remember rightly, you said there were an extra 75 staff to handle the changes in Senedd reform. I think eight staff have yet to be recruited because we're awaiting that decision from…
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Thank you. I appreciate that. The challenge we have, I suppose, is that there's an ask in this budget today. It is a bit of a chicken-and-egg—I appreciate that—because there has to be a funding envelope to start making some decisions. How we consider that as…
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
I guess it comes to the point—. The Finance Committee consideration is the numbers behind this. So, it's the value of the asset at the end of the 50 years, and the value of an asset that is only 50 years old versus the value of an asset that is considered, on…
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
But that's the point, sorry. That's the point—it looks like a new building, but the actual structure itself is not.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay. Cai, is there anything else you want to take up on those points at all? No. I guess on that broader point, then—and I'm sure you've considered this fully as a Commission—the difference between a refurb and a new build, of course, is that in 50 years'…
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Do you want to pick up any points on that, Huw, in particular, before I bring Cai in? Cai.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Thanks. Huw.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Huw.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay. Thanks for that.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
We can get those details back to the committee, though, yes?
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Briefly, Sera, and then—
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Sorry, to be really clear on that, you said savings on rent. The rent will still be paid, I assume.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay. Just briefly.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Sera.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Ed, and for everybody, if we could have brevity, because time is going. We've got quite a few questions to get through too, so succinct points would be lovely. Thank you very much.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay, we'll have to look forward to that. I'm sorry, time's really going. Sera, do you want to carry on?
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Sorry, before we go into some of those broader points, I guess what we're more interested in as a Finance Committee is how you know it's value for money.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay, thank you, Huw. Sera, if we can move on to your question, please.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Okay. Huw.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
Sorry, Cai, go on.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
No, there's the cost of staffing as well.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2027-28: Evidence Session
No, it's not—
