Speeches and questions

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Motion under Standing Orders 17.42(vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of this meeting and for all items at the meeting on 26 January 2023 with the exception of the evidence session with the Chief Nursing Officer for Wales

October. I don't know where I got October from. So, our next meeting on 26 October, so excluding members of the public from that meeting, with the exception of the one item. Did I say 'October' again? [Laughter.] For absolute clarity, I'm asking you to agree…

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Motion under Standing Orders 17.42(vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of this meeting and for all items at the meeting on 26 January 2023 with the exception of the evidence session with the Chief Nursing Officer for Wales

Twenty-sixth of January. What did I say? February?

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Motion under Standing Orders 17.42(vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of this meeting and for all items at the meeting on 26 January 2023 with the exception of the evidence session with the Chief Nursing Officer for Wales

Right, move to item 4, and in accordance with Standing Orders 17.42, I resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting and all items of the meeting on 26 October, with the exception of the evidence session with the Chief Nursing Officer for…

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Paper(s) to note

—to stay and participate in that. And also, correspondence from the Llywydd as well. So, if Members are content to note those papers, and, as I've said, we've got some time allocated in our private session to discuss any further responses that might be…

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Paper(s) to note

We've got time allocated in our private session to discuss our response to that, Jenny, so obviously you're very welcome—

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Paper(s) to note

Move to item 3—a number of papers to note. There's correspondence with other Senedd committees; correspondence with Welsh Government Ministers, including the Food Supplement and Food for Specific Groups (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2022, and also…

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

In next year's budget. Yes, okay. Thank you. Thank you, Minister, I really appreciate your time and the time of other Ministers and officials this morning. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you also for your advanced paper ahead of today's session as well. So, thank…

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

And then in terms of the draft budget, which is the subject of today's discussion, what are the consequences of that in terms of the flexibility that you have for a further increase in bed capacity, if needed?

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

So, just talk me through the budget consequences of that. If that's not sufficient, is there flexibility in your draft budget to increase the 508 beds that you've worked to—

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Five hundred and eight beds. Sorry, yes; quite right. Five hundred and eight beds.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

And a final question from me, Minister. The 108 beds that you've confirmed—is that enough? Is that sufficient?

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Okay. A quickfire question from Gareth.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Any other questions on this section, or any other final pressing questions from anyone?

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Thank you. Rhun ap Iorwerth.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Okay. Sarah Murphy.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Should there be, and what are the consequences of putting, a cap on health boards in terms of the spend on agency staff?

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Rhun.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Just a short answer, just give us the date.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Gareth Davies.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

We'll have to move on. I've got Joyce, Gareth and Sarah next. If they can just be quick-fire questions with succinct answers, if that's all right. Joyce Watson.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Thank you, Nick.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Does bringing back financial balance need tough decisions on services?

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Thank you. Jenny Rathbone.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Welcome back to the Health and Social Care Committee, and the next set of questions is from Gareth Davies.

11 January 2023, Health and Social Care Committee

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services, the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Others want a break. We'll take a five-minute break. Thank you.