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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Can I just ask some questions now around the non-25B elements as well? So, is there sufficient clarity or guidance about the implementation of 25A, do you think?
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Who wants to come in last on this point?
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Yes, absolutely, yes.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
There we are. Thank you. Gareth Davies.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Thank you. I'd better move onto the next section just for time, unless there's any pressing point. No. That's fine. Thank you. Joyce Watson.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Would you like to address that, Nicola?
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Oh, sorry, I didn't see you have a hand there, Mabon. Mabon.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
I'll bring Jennifer in, if that's all right, Gareth, just to finish on this point.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
There we are. Does anybody else want to come in on the back of that? Gareth Howells and then Jennifer.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Who would like to address that point? Nicola Williams.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Okay. I'll just bring in Sarah Murphy at this point. Sarah Murphy.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
That's really interesting to have that evidence from working in Wales for 13 months. So, that's powerful to hear that, so perhaps some Members might want to dive into some of that a bit later on as well. You mentioned finance in your response as well. There's…
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Thank you. I'll widen my question out, and perhaps bring you in as well, Jennifer, but a number of the consultation responses provided to us said that there's now a greater corporate responsibility for nurse staffing, and I wonder if you agree with that. By…
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Right. Thank you for being with us. So, to what extent has the Act delivered on its aims?
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Thank you.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with nursing directors
Croeso, bawb. Welcome back to the Health and Social Care Committee. I move to our next item, which is item 3, in regard to our second session today on the Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016 and our post-legislative scrutiny. We've got some evidence, and…
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
Thank you. Sorry, we'd better draw this session to an end. I know we've gone over just a little bit, but can I thank you all very much for being with us this morning? And, of course, if there's further evidence that you want to submit, and following the other…
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
So, we are out of time and I was going to say, 'Can you give a brief answer?', but it's very difficult to give a brief answer, but if I could ask you to incorporate Joyce and Mabon's comments in some final comments from you, Lisa.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
I was just going to say, we are out of time and I can see Mabon's got a question as well. If I ask Mabon to come in now, then perhaps I can ask you to incorporate Mabon and Joyce's point. Mabon.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
Okay, thank you. Joyce, you wanted to come in.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
Okay. So, you're suspecting that there probably were sufficient staff on the ward and there was another reason for the incident.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
Is it really? Okay.
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
We are out of time, and I won't come to Joyce, but the one case I wanted to raise, which helps me to understand how I can help a constituent, is the context of one constituent, not particularly elderly, who moved from a district general hospital and steps…
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
How do we know that?
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Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Act 2016: post-legislative scrutiny: evidence session with the Royal College of Nursing Wales
Joyce wants to ask a question, but I just wanted to come back on one myself. Just to understand, do we know the extent of where there is non-compliance?
