, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Yes. It's huge.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
So, you actually think it would not have been overall the amount that we've got, it would have been more than double. So, in terms of the overall question of value for the public purse, bearing in mind the issues that there are—the governance issues and also…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Thank you. So, for clarity—and the 12-month contract that would have to have been paid anyway—what you said is that the mediation process, the insurers being present and the fact that there has been an absolute desire to get best value for the public purse at…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Okay. Thank you, Chair.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Bearing in mind the Welsh Government involvement at that point, is it still possible to have that amount of time without an in-person meeting, bearing in mind a similar—God forbid—situation in the future?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Thank you. And my final question, in regard to meeting in person. Given the board of trustees conducted all of its business by e-mail during a critical period from September 2021 to March 2022, with no in-person or online meetings, how is it possible to say…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Could you outline those briefly?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Yes, when the director general ceased his position officially.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
So, were there changes put in place as a result, from that point in time?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Thank you. Going back to November 2022, pre yourselves, when the former director general ceased to discharge those duties in that role, are you cognisant of any changes to the governance arrangements from 17 November, or would you like to write to us to let…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Thank you. Again, you both weren't in post, but you are now in post, and we've touched upon grievance policy now being cascaded and refreshed throughout the organisation. So, in terms of governance, which we've just been talking about, the changes that you've…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Yes, of course.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Okay. Thank you.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
And then the grievance.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Right.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
So, what I'm trying to unpick, really—you have mentioned a significant event and a grievance—is in terms of how did that affect, if you could be really clear, the preparation of the financial report for 2021-22, and the consequent delay? I know that you have…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
How would you term it?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Okay. Thank you. The financial report for 2021—you say that responsibility for decision making in relation to functions is clearly set out in the Royal Charter. So, again, if this was the case, why was there a lack of clarity about roles and responsibilities?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
In terms of the delay, and the issue around clarity of roles and responsibilities, is that significant in terms of the overall delay, in that chronology? How would you say that that would fit in with that?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
The significant event, in terms of clarity for the committee, would have been centred around roles and responsibilities.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Accounts scrutiny: Amgueddfa Cymru-Museum Wales
Thank you, and welcome. This must have been a very difficult time to step into new roles. Turning to responsibilities and roles and the timing of raised concerns, the financial report, you say, was delayed because of senior executive concerns about the…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papers to note
I just wanted to underscore that.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papers to note
Yes.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papers to note
So, this is pack page 9. So, I've got it under—
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papers to note
Right. Going back to that pack page 9, there's an annex and a supplementary, and it just does detail the cyber-attack scale, and I just would like to go back to that and state that's fantastic; that's what we would expect to receive, but I still don't know…
