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Debate: Budget flexibilities and the operation of the UK funding framework
Our concerns are broadly related to the following areas. Firstly, there seems to be a general lack of understanding and awareness within the Treasury of matters affecting devolved institutions. This can be seen by the scant regard given to devolved budgetary…
, Plenary
Debate: Budget flexibilities and the operation of the UK funding framework
Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd. I'd like to say a few words as Chair of the Finance Committee, as this debate relates to a number of points of interest to us, which, hopefully, reflect the broad consensus of opinion around these issues, as expressed in the…
, Finance Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting
Therefore, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42, I propose that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Are Members content? I see that they are, therefore we'll go into private session. Thank you very much.
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay, thank you very much, and thanks for indulging me with that last question. Thank you very much for your time this morning. It's been great, and apologies for going over a little bit but I think it was well worth it to get those answers on the record. As…
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Diolch, Rhianon, and that brings us to the end, nearly. I've just got one question, and it might stray into policy rather than—. But that is my prerogative—I'm Chair of this committee. Does this Bill set a precedent for doing education by Bill? So, would…
, Finance Committee
Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Rhianon, we've gone over a little bit of time, but as long as everybody is okay, I'm happy to keep it to its natural conclusion. As long as it doesn't go on for another three hours, then we'll be fine, I'm sure.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Can we bring Dave in?
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Dave, on that point.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Dave.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
So, I think that that will probably bring us on to Rhianon's first question, about additional learning needs in that as well. But I'll let you take the question now, Rhianon.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you, Peter. Thank you. And just to clarify—and I think it's something that you said earlier—you've assumed 100 per cent take-up.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you. Peter, I'll come back to you now.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Certainly. Dave, do you want to come in? Can we unmute? Thank you, Dave.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Just by going on one of these isn't going to—
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Can I just come in on that point? The RIA notes that the figures don't apply to single events such as an outdoor education residential. The Minister did question that when we spoke to him, saying that the review and the report do not in fact include…
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Fair enough. Thank you very much. Peter.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Diolch. Welsh Government has said that it is risky to commit to a forecast costing, given that it doesn't have any indicative budgets past March 2025. To what extent do you agree with that?
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Sorry, yes, Mike. Carry on.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. Thank you. Sorry, Mike. Carry on.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Mike, if I could just come in on that point, sorry. With hypothecating, you've been a council leader, and hypothecating and telling you what to do isn't something that you probably appreciate from Welsh Government. Why would this be any different in that…
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you very much. I'll bring Mike Hedges in at this point. Diolch yn fawr.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Great, thank you very much for that. The final question, really, from me, before I move on to Mike Hedges: the RIA does not include the costs associated with additional clothing and equipment, such as footwear, spare coats, et cetera. Are you concerned that…
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. I'll bring Rhianon in on that point.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
So, it's the maximum envelope, effectively, that you're trying to look at.
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Financial Implications of the Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Is it the worst case, or the best case?
