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Evidence session: Panel 2 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
So, from a compassionate point of view, then it's probably advanced a little bit, because of the level of care and the level of things that you've got that you're able to monitor—oxygen, and all the rest of it—during an operation. So, does that mean that the…
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Evidence session: Panel 2 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Yes. Maybe, Caroline, from your point of view, then, as you talked about treatments being possibly more advanced, so comparing what it was like for you, maybe 10 years ago, as a practising vet, compared to now, have things changed? Carlie's experience there…
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Evidence session: Panel 2 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
No. Okay. It's just to try to understand where things have changed over the time.
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Evidence session: Panel 2 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
So, from your experience, then, with the other cats, the level of care, the efficiency, the speed or anything like that, nothing much has changed from that point of view. Obviously, we heard from Caroline that some of the treatments have got more advanced, I…
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Evidence session: Panel 2 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
—when they went in for treatment, was there a difference? As in, was it faster, was it more efficient, was it less complicated? Were there any tangible differences between the treatment or the care that Dolly had seven years ago, compared to Nix recently?
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Evidence session: Panel 2 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Thank you. Hi, both. Thank you very much for coming in this afternoon. I just wanted to reflect a little bit on something that Carlie said earlier, if I may. Maybe, Carlie, could you do a comparison for me, keeping the money out of it? So, we've talked a lot…
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Evidence session: Panel 2 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
That's fine.
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Updates to previous petitions
The supporters of this petition are waving at me—it's nice to see you in the gallery and taking an interest, as always, in the Gwent levels. I'd like to thank them for their response to the Minister's detailed response as well. I've had conversations with the…
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Updates to previous petitions
Yes. I concur with you, Jack, and thank you very much for all the work that you've done personally to highlight this. I know, individually, we'll all be wanting to keep an eye on this, going forward. I do concur that we close this petition, but thank the…
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New Petitions
I'd like to put on the record a 'diolch yn fawr' to the petitioner on this, a very timely and apt petition, and it possibly speaks to what you were saying earlier about timings and understanding that, for us to be able to debate this, we would need to close…
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New Petitions
Content.
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New Petitions
Diolch, Cadeirydd. I'd like to thank the petitioner for bringing this, and his interest in this particular subject. Obviously, we've been through a lot of scrutiny around this Bill. We've been through all four stages of the Bill, and it's now awaiting Royal…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Thank you very much for that. We understand where you're coming from when you're reporting other people's comments. Maybe if we turn to Dr Paterson and some of the counterargument—if you wanted to comment on anything you've just heard or maybe a view from the…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Just a couple of questions, really, to finish my section before I pass on to my colleagues. Since 1999 and the changes that have happened, could you give us a flavour of what the impact has been on vets as individuals and as practices? That's one part. And…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Thank you.
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Okay. Sue, having listened to that—and, maybe, your reflection on that—for us to understand how the systems work, is the regulation of veterinary surgeons and being members of the royal college through an Act of Parliament, or is that through—? If you could…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
And is that something that you've voluntarily done, or is it something for your registration with the college that you have to do?
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Okay. One of the things that Dr Paterson said was that you can regulate vets but not veterinary practices. As an independent practice, what does that entail? You and your vets will be regulated, but the work that your practice does is not regulated—is that…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Okay. Thank you. Going over to Julia, you're an independent practice and your practice is independent. So, the practices around you, then, in your neck of the woods, are you seeing more corporate entities coming in and becoming part of that, or—? Can you…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Yes. It's just an interest: is there a difference between—?
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Great. You talked about the difference between England and Wales there, do you have any insight into the difference between urban and rural, as well, in that context? Are the corporates more involved in an urban setting, rather than a rural, mid Wales or…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Thank you. So, if we go back to Sue and look at the four areas, and maybe—. Do you want to have a look at that and say what the pace of change is? Is it increasing, is it slowing down? Is it finding a happy medium now, in your opinion? So, if you go through…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Maybe, yes, from—. If we go to Julia, then, just as, 'Do you concur?' And then, obviously, we can unpack some of that afterwards.
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
It's good to see you on screen, having once wanted to be a vet, but I didn't quite get into vet school, so my path eventually led me here, so it's quite interesting to see how that happens. But, looking back over the last 25 years, what's changed, in your…
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Evidence session: Panel 1 - P-06-1291 Hold an enquiry into the corporate takeover of the veterinary profession in Wales
Thank you, Jack, and thank you very much for attending today.
