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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis, briefly, and then we'll need to move on slightly.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Anthony wanted to come in on this point.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Andrew, you're shaking your head there, so do you want to come in on that? Just unmute Andrew for me, please. There we are.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
I know that we're going to return to national insurance later on, but thank you for those points. Sam.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Nia, do you have—? Do you want to respond to Sam's question?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
It's good to have that comment, because it helps, not necessarily with the budget now, but especially with policy development and legislation. But I'll come to Nia now.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Before I come to Nia, just a point that I think Andrew Morgan made there, or it might have been yourself, Sam: one thing that this committee, when looking at regulatory impact assessments for Bills, sees is how much it's going to cost Government, but then not…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Yes. I've got Nia who wants to come in, but I'll bring Mike in and then I'll bring Nia in after that.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Maybe Andrew, from a WLGA standpoint, and maybe from Rhondda Cynon Taf as well.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
I'll go to Sam Rowlands for some questions. Diolch, Sam.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Thank you.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Okay, thank you. Nia, did you want to come in on that, or perhaps I didn't come to you on the funding floor either, earlier. So, I don't know if you have something brief there, and then I'll move on to Sam.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Okay, thank you. And finally from me, before I come to Sam, your capital funding will increase from £180 million to £200 million, alongside which there will be an additional £10 million of funding for decarbonisation—a total of £30 million. What does this…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Okay, thank you very much. Just looking at the tables that were published by the Cabinet Secretary when making the announcement, it looks as if the Welsh Government has updated those tables that sit behind the provision of local government since their…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Anthony, you indicated.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Of course, Lis, yes.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Okay. That's fine. That's fine. Mike, did you want to come in on this?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
So, if you got everybody to 4.3 per cent.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Of course. And any idea what it would be—? Because the further up that floor goes, the more councils get. Do you know roughly what a 5 per cent floor would cost?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Have you done any work around how much a floor at, say, 4 per cent would cost, how much a floor at 5 per cent would cost, 6 per cent would cost?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
This is directed, maybe, at Anthony now. I was reading the letter that Jayne Bryant sent to local authorities at the time of announcing the revenue support grant, and then a letter going back from yourselves as the WLGA talking about—. In that, she was…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Ocê. Diolch yn fawr am hynny.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Nia, do you have anything to say about how this will affect services in your council, and from talking to other councillors too?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis, there's obviously a range within that settlement across Wales, and the formula and things like that. So, from your experience in your council, and talking to other leaders, what are those challenges, then? You talked about social services, but those…