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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
There we are. Peter.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Thank you.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
I think Rhianon wanted to come in.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Do you know what the quantum is of that?
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
It might be worth starting now, because we know how long it takes for vacant land tax to be done. So, give it 10 years, then we might have to do it. But anyway, that being that, I'll go over to Mike.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
As part of that, I'd encourage you, if you have time, to speak to the enforcement board that has been set up and is trying to regulate bailiffs and that punitive method of collection, which happens, and some of the practices that happen there. I think you'd…
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
As part of that work, and in some casework I've been dealing with—and I'm sure it's in all our inboxes, and yours as well, Minister—it's people who are concerned about the cost of living and council tax arrears, and the fact that with council tax arrears, if…
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Thank you. Just following on from what Mike was talking about in his point around council tax being an extremely regressive tax, have you considered what policies would reduce the burden of using these regressive taxes and use more progressive ones such as…
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Rhianon, did you want to come in?
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
I think Mike and Rhianon wanted to come in.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Obviously, you'd have to balance that and take the public with you. You'd have to have a clear understanding of what you're trying to achieve by doing it as well, I'd imagine.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Scotland has the ability to change bands, as well as what we've got here. Would that give you more flexibility to be able to consider tweaking the amounts that you raise in each band? Would that be something that might be of benefit to Wales and your ability…
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
I think a comment came that a lot of it was in the appendices in the OBR report, but moving it into the body of the report might aid some of the stakeholders in understanding what was going on, especially Wales Fiscal Analysis. They were saying they were…
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Lovely. Croeso cynnes. Obviously, we've had a bit of a curtailed budget scrutiny session, and we've had a few very, very interesting scrutiny sessions with stakeholders. We've got a raft of questions for you, as you'd expect, so we'll move on. Obviously, this…
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Emma.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
And then Andrew.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
We'll start with Rebecca—just introduce yourself and your officials. Or I'll call them—if we start with yourself.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 8
Welcome back to the session with the Minister now on the draft budget. A very warm welcome to you to the meeting. We're going to be scrutinising now for about an hour and three quarters. But before we do that—a very warm welcome to you—would you be willing to…
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Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 5, 7 and 8 and from the next meeting
We're going to break now before we have the Minister. I propose, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42, that the committee resolves to exclude the public from items 5, 7 and 8 and the next meeting. Is everyone agreed? Yes. Thank you.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 7
Thank you very much for your time this morning and thank you for spending a little bit longer with us than we'd originally planned. There will be a transcript provided for you to check that it's correct. Please do so. But, again, just to endorse what other…
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 7
Lovely. Thank you.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 7
Lis, did you want to come in on that? You can have the final word.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 7
Anthony.
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 7
Lis, did you want to come in on one of those points?
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Scrutiny of the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2023-24: Evidence session 7
Llinos, if you want.