, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 2 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
Okay, diolch, Cadeirydd. We heard from Steve McGee and his mother, Janet, earlier, and we heard about the distress that can be caused when somebody, especially who is vulnerable, is not able to pay with cash. I know, I'm sure, most small businesses wouldn't…
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
I'm just thinking, maybe an independent business or somebody that—where you actually speak to the boss, if you like, and whether or not anybody is—. I suspected it would be that, that answer. And, just another aspect, is there any research that's been…
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
Just a quick question, and the answer might be 'no'. Are there any businesses local to you that have gone cashless that you've actually engaged with and spoken to, and then they've changed their behaviour?
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
Okay. Diolch.
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
Yes, of course. Yes.
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
Yes. Yes, okay.
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
No. Do you find that people in those shops or cafes—do they do anything to try and help? Is there anything—
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
How does that make you feel, Steven?
, Petitions Committee
Evidence session - Panel 1 - P-06-1335 Welsh Government should take steps to ensure vulnerable adults without bank cards can pay with cash
Diolch, Jack. Croeso. Welcome to the committee. I just wanted to ask Steven and Janet—could you talk us through your experiences? Have you come across this yourselves? How did it make you feel? Tell us what happened, and maybe an example or two.
, Finance Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting
Now, under Standing Order 17.42, I'm going to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. So, I make that proposal. Is everybody in agreement? I can see nodding. Thank you very much. Okay, we'll go into private. Diolch yn fawr.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
We'll send you the transcript so that you can check for accuracy and make sure that that's correct. The one request I would make—. I know, Ken, you've said that you'll follow up with a couple of points—could I ask for those as soon as possible? We, like…
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
It's been a very interesting session.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Diolch yn fawr. Thank you very much for your time this morning.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
That's fine. I wasn't going to stop you mid flow there, Ken, so, thank you for that. But, yes, any update on that in the future, especially any impact it might have on spending and costs and cost savings, potentially, with the use of the estates, would be…
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Manon was nodding at me, but, if you want to go ahead, I'm sure she'll let you, Ken.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Right, okay. Thank you very much for that clarification. Diolch. Rhianon, over to you.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Can I just clarify, before Rhianon asks her next question, the two figures that were—? Ken, you mentioned £90,000, and, Rhianon, I think you mentioned £80,000. I just wanted to make sure that we get that figure correct.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Diolch. Back to you, Rhianon.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Well, I don't—. Manon or Ken, did you want to address that point?
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Great. Thank you, Peter. Over to Rhianon. Can we unmute Rhianon? There we are. Lovely. Go ahead, Rhianon.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Because, going back to what Manon was saying about 71 per cent being the staffing costs, staff welfare and everything, it's good to understand the implications of that into further years. Thank you very much. Peter.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Mike, did you have anything further to ask? No. Based on that—I'll bring you in in just a second, Peter—in the letter from the unions that we had, they made a request about 2024-25, set out, I think it was, in the letter of 3 October. If those are agreed…
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Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Manon, did you—?
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
Okay, diolch. Diolch yn fawr. Thanks. Sorry, Mike. Carry on.
, Finance Committee
Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Evidence session
So—sorry, Mike—are any of them going to be recurrent next year, or not? Sorry.
