, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you very much. There are a lot of interdependencies between this Bill and others, in particular the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill, and that Bill needs to gain Royal Assent for some of the work in this Bill to actually make sense and to come…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
In the RIA, you've outlined a number of benefits that have not been monetised. Are you able to elaborate on what analysis you took to determine the potential quantifiable benefits within those and how you will monitor the delivery of those benefits to ensure…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Right. So, you talked about the White Paper earlier. That covered some of the areas included in the Bill but not all the areas. Are you satisfied that you have adequately engaged with stakeholders on all aspects of the Bill, in particular in terms of the cost…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Are they going to be significant or are they going to be—? What sort of order of magnitude—?
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
And because this Bill has elements of it that are frameworks, so you're going to be looking at coming back with secondary legislation, how have you allocated for the costs involved in secondary legislation in this process? Can you give us a flavour of what…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Can you clarify what the opportunity costs of the Bill are?
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Wonderful, thank you very much. Croeso cynnes to this meeting. We've got an hour or so to go through some questions with you this morning. Obviously, you'll have a transcript of this afterwards to check for accuracy. I'd like to start by exploring the Welsh…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
We move on to our third item on the agenda this morning, which is the evidence session on the financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill. We welcome the Minister and officials. Would you be able to introduce yourself and your…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
A warm welcome back. We've had a change of Minister, so that's a good thing.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
Okay. Thank you very much. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Obviously, there's a transcript going to be available for you just to check for accuracy afterwards, but diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you very much for your time. Diolch. We'll just take a short break.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
No reductions. Sorry, I misheard.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
So, with—. If it's demand led, the demand is going up because we've got more and more legislation coming through, but that has had a cut in people, basically, or not being able to recruit people.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
Thank you very much. Well, that brings us to time and we've got the Counsel General coming in now to give us evidence on the financial impacts of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill, so that will be interesting. And I suppose the question that we…
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
Jack, did you have a final question?
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
And I suppose it boils down then, from this committee's point of view, or from this Senedd's point of view, to that not seeing the movements within the MEGs until later creates that uncertainty as well—what demand-led services within education, or within…
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
With regards to that conversation you've had with local authorities and the pressures, and going on from what Jack was saying, especially around education and other services, especially social care and that sort of element—.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
If you want to take that question, and then maybe the Minister can answer.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
If I may, Jack, on that point, you've talked about protecting the RSG, and, obviously, you're the Minister for local government as well as finance. What conversations have you had with the local authority leaders with regards to everything else that goes…
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
Thank you. Jack.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
That's the difference. So, effectively 100 per cent, plus the £61 million, so if you're moving £147 million potentially from capital to revenue, 'How does that mechanism work?' I suppose is what we're asking.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
So, you've overprogrammed by £61 million. Does that mean then that you're cutting that to be able to switch parts of that, or are you—
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
It was good to get that pinned down. I'll come to Peter.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
But on the conversations you've had with the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, the outgoing one, what's going to be your process now to engage with the incoming one, I suppose, is my question.
, Finance Committee
Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
On that, I'm assuming—maybe rightly or wrongly, you can put me right—have you already written to the new Chief Secretary to the Treasury to firm up assumptions that you made based on the discussions that you had with their predecessor?
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Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session
Okay. Thank you. Mike.