7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Thank you very much. Thank you. Diolch, Cadeirydd.
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
People do things in health, as you know, that in other parts of the public sector would not be allowed, and, really, what I'm asking is: has the maturity assessment on financial grip and control been completed, and have you actually got a system by which…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
I agree with you. I served six years on Swansea health board, as it then was. Yes, the laissez-faire attitude to finance that exists in health is one that neither you nor I would have allowed in local government. I think that's one of the things that you and…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Ten years ago, approximately, I was on the Public Accounts Committee, and a number of people from Betsi Cadwaladr were here—that doesn't narrow the date down very much because Betsi Cadwaladr health board has almost had a standing invitation to the Public…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Thank you. When did the health board expect the issues with the suspended staff in the finance team to be finally resolved?
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Thank you. From my experience in local government, there was a trick that one or two officers used to pull, and that was that they used to procure a very small number of items that only a limited number of people would bid for. Having done that procurement…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
We've been told that HR processes are still under way in respect of some senior members of the finance team. What action has been taken to address the problems with internal control identified through the auditor general's report and through Ernst & Young?
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
That's just a comment.
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
I agree with you entirely. But just to comment, because I've finished my questions, if you go and look at the health questions here, the questions on secondary care massively outweigh those on primary care, even though primary care sees 90, 95 per cent of…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Yes.
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Sorry, we're not talking about finance yet; we will later on. Does that mean you'll be spending a greater proportion of your budget next year then you did this year on community? Because one of the problems we've had in health—and, sorry, people have heard me…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
If I can just talk about the hospitals, you've got three major hospitals, haven't you, that are a long way apart, not in terms of miles, but in terms of the ability to travel between them. I want to declare as an interest my daughter lives in Bangor, and she…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Moving on, you've had intervention—this is probably for Carol. Have you had the support in this intervention that you've actually needed? It's easy to have an intervention and it's easy to tell people they're not doing very well or things are wrong. We're…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Can I say that I'm happier with that answer than the sort of glib answer we've had from some of your predecessors of, 'It's all under control'?
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
The unknown unknowns.
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
A difficult question here: how confident are you that the health board has identified all the key issues that need to be addressed?
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
And it's up to us, Cadeirydd, to ask the Government to do so, but perhaps that's something that can come out of this meeting. The second one is: in her oral statement two weeks ago, the Minister referred to independent advisors’ feedback and review findings…
7 March 2024 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Evidence Session: Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board
Diolch, Cadeirydd. I'll start off with a couple of 'yes' or 'no' questions, actually. The first one is: as you know better than I do, a number of independent reviews have been undertaken as part of the escalation into special measures; some of the reviews…
6 March 2024 , Committee of the Whole Senedd
Group 19: Transitional provision in the case that an extraordinary general election resulted in the 2026 ordinary general election not being held (Amendments 84, 87, 88)
Will you bring the general election on?
6 March 2024 , Committee of the Whole Senedd
Group 17: Review of operation of Act etc. after 2026 general election (Amendments 9, 10, 19, 116, 11, 12, 49, 53, 20, 50)
We're not rejecting the least proportional; the least proportional is STV, where polling the most votes doesn't get you the most seats. Just look at the Irish general election.
6 March 2024 , Committee of the Whole Senedd
Group 17: Review of operation of Act etc. after 2026 general election (Amendments 9, 10, 19, 116, 11, 12, 49, 53, 20, 50)
Will you take an intervention?
6 March 2024 , Committee of the Whole Senedd
Group 16: Referendum on the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Act 2024 (Amendments 36, 37)
I know. Do you mean a second referendum or a third referendum, because, back in 1975, the first referendum, we voted to stay in the European Union?
6 March 2024 , Committee of the Whole Senedd
Group 16: Referendum on the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Act 2024 (Amendments 36, 37)
When did we vote on the police and crime commissioner method of election, and when did we vote on the change to the police and crime commissioner voting system? And when did we vote on the mayoral voting system, and when did we vote on the change to the…
5 March 2024 , Committee of the Whole Senedd
Group 9: Vacant seats that cannot be filled in accordance with new section 11 of the Government of Wales Act 2006 (to be inserted by section 9 of the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill) (Amendments 29, 30, 33, 34, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123)
We have regional lists now, don't we, and, on the regional lists, when somebody drops out, the next person on the list comes in. I've seen some of those regional lists from some parties, and they're awfully long. You'd need a very serious set of events to…
5 March 2024 , Committee of the Whole Senedd
Group 9: Vacant seats that cannot be filled in accordance with new section 11 of the Government of Wales Act 2006 (to be inserted by section 9 of the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill) (Amendments 29, 30, 33, 34, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123)
Will you take an intervention?