, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting
I propose, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(ix), that the committee resolves to meet in private for items 6 and 7 of today's meeting. Are all Members content? I assume that Rhianon is—yes. Thank you. In that case, the clerk will move to private session.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
So, thank you very much. A transcript of today's meeting will be published in draft form and that will be copied to you and you'll have an opportunity to check it for accuracy before publication of the final version. So, thank you again for being with us. I…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
My briefing paper had you down with a double 'd' in the middle, so that's my only excuse, but now I know that that's incorrect.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you very much indeed. So, thanks to Helen Twidle—I apologise for the mispronunciation at the beginning.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Well, thank you very much indeed. So, the clock has more than overtaken us. If you don't mind, we will write to you with the three final points that we haven't had time to cover yet.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Are you content, Rhianon? Yes, thank you. I think that last question—. I think, if I remember correctly, in England, they're introducing an £86,000 per person cap, which is a variation on the system or different to the system in Wales. We're running short of…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you. Perhaps a comment: I think the 95 per cent private sector includes the large number run by charities and housing associations as well. I think we made some references earlier, so there's the ongoing debate we might have about this. But if I can…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you very much indeed. Natasha Asghar.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Great.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you very much indeed. Rhianon, are you ready to come back in?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
No, we asked you to be succinct at the beginning, so that's very helpful. Cefin.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
You've given us quite a comprehensive answer, yes.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Certainly, yes. Cefin.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
That's right. This is 10.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Okay, thank you. If I can bring Rhianon Passmore in, who has got some questions for you. Over to Rhianon.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
It was whether you could think of any quick wins, quick things that could be done, to either improve things or prevent things or stop things that are currently preventing an improvement.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Don't worry at all.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you very much indeed. Before we move on, then—I suspect my colleagues will cover a lot of this in their own questioning— and sorry to put you on the spot at this stage, but can you suggest any potential quick wins that could be introduced to simplify…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you. I note the comments that Age Cymru's made in the past about engagement amongst your members with regional partnership boards, for example, but what engagement has Age Cymru had with public bodies and providers to develop solutions to the problems…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
I think that was essentially it. Out-of-area placements was the other particular issue I mentioned, which tied in with your first comment. But I suspect a lot of those will relate to people with particular support needs, such as dementia.
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you very much indeed. In your view, how does the experience of accessing care impact on service users and their families? I'll give you a couple of examples: perhaps issues arising from out-of-area placements and issues arising where the resident's…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Thank you very much indeed. We have a number of questions for you, as you might expect, and I remind Members and I'd be grateful if you also could be succinct to enable us to cover the wide range of issues that this topic has generated. I'll begin the…
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 2
Welcome back. I'm pleased to welcome—croeso—Helen Twidle from Age Cymru. Apologies for delaying you, but thank you for being here. Just for the Record, could you please state your name and role?
, Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Care Home Commissioning for Older People: Evidence Session 1
Right, committee, can we have a short shutdown? Yes, please.
