, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Sure. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
I'm just wondering whether there's a conscious policy decision to use some of these changes as a way to grow and strengthen proactively the community transport sector as something that many of us feel is good, because we want to see more community-owned…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
So, to what extent are you proactively supporting that sector to grow, or using that sector to plug gaps?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
And that we don't end up with one regional contract that's up for tender and that there are bite-sized chunks that all and sundry can apply for, if they wish.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
There are a lot of balls in the air there at the same time, aren't there? But I guess it's about managing all of that, which is exactly what this is about, I suppose, isn't it? Thank you. Carolyn.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Because I'd imagine that would require quite a lump of money upfront to deliver some of that, in challenging economic times.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
But that's going to cost money, isn't it? A lot of money, presumably.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Just reflecting on asset ownership, of course, there's a question about capital investment as well, isn't there? Can you tell us a little bit about what plans there may be in relation to that, thinking particularly maybe of improving the fleet that we have…
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
If and when you have it, that would be useful, yes. Thank you.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Just briefly, on that social value, how do you capture that?
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Diolch yn fawr. Thank you. Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
That's fine. We'll move on to Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Yes, Carolyn, and then we'll come to Janet afterwards.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
With the attractiveness of contract in mind, clearly, whilst they don't carry the revenue risk, they will still carry a cost risk in relation to increasing fuel prices or wages, or whatever. Maybe it's a bit too far down the line for us to answer today, but…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Good. Indeed. Thank you. Julie.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Thank you, there we are. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Okay, thank you. Delyth.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Yes, because they use the same infrastructure and they exist within the same ecosystem, don't they? They're just different types of users.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Yes. Okay, thank you very much. Carolyn.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
And mindful of the fact that maybe CJC boundaries aren't necessarily reflective of people's lives.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
So, 'potential' is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Yes, and I get that, and I respect that, of course. Can I just ask, Lee? You mentioned working with the corporate joint committees. I see the map in the document. Obviously, the potential franchise areas aren't coterminous as such, or don't seem to be, with…
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
Has anything changed given the change of ministerial roles?
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Road map to Bus Reform - Technical briefing
There we are. Okay, thank you. Janet.