, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Okay, that's fine. We'll go on to Joyce, then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Fine, okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Yes, absolutely. Okay, thank you for that. We'll come back to you then, Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
—but it's clearly unacceptable, whether it's frequent or an isolated incident.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Okay. No, you're right. It's difficult when we discuss an individual situation—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Okay, thank you for that. Bev, on this as well briefly, and then we'll move on, back to Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Jenny, you wanted to pick up.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Who wants to pick up on that one? Yes, go on, Jane.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Well, the message is clear there. Absolutely, thank you. Okay, we'll move on, then, to Janet.
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Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Thank you. Bev.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Okay. Gemma.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Yes. Excellent. Okay. I've got a feeling that will find its way into our report somewhere. [Laughter.] Okay. We'll move on now then to Delyth. Diolch.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Yes. Okay. Jane.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Okay. Bev.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Before I bring Bev in, I think Joyce wants to raise something as well. Joyce, did you want to pick up on something as well?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Okay, thank you. Huw wants to come in as well on this.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
The point you make about insufficient numbers of drivers is interesting. It's not one that's been mentioned yet today. I don't know whether's there's any view on that particularly, Bev.
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Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Okay. Anybody else want to pick up on that? No. Okay. Joyce, was there anything else you wanted to pursue?
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Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Yes, please, Jane.
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Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Who wants to take that?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Yes, okay, thank you very much. There we are. We'll move on, then, to Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
That's really interesting. Okay, yes, Bev.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
So, 2030. Okay. That's a long way away.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
There we are. Good to see the four of you. Thank you for your attendance today. We'll go straight into questions, if that's okay, and I'll kick off and ask you whether bus and rail passenger numbers—. We know they remain below pre-pandemic levels. Is that…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 3
Welcome back to the committee. We move on to item 4 of the meeting today to continue with the evidence on bus and rail transport in Wales. We move to a panel representing the bus and community transport sector. Welcome to you all. I'll ask you all to…