, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Very briefly, then, if you would, Tim. Thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Thank you. The Deputy Minister told us that the White Paper was co-produced with local government and the bus industry. I'm just wondering specifically how Welsh Government engaged with you, and whether your views were actually taken on board…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Thank you, Tim. Roger.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Before I ask Roger whether he's up for it, I'll ask Jenny to come in.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Tim initially, then we'll come to Roger.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
That's an interesting and useful parallel, actually. Thank you for that. Okay. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Roger.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
I think maybe Government are guilty of creating unrealistic expectations as well in publishing these very colourful sort of underground-like maps across north Wales, and people expecting things to happen maybe sooner than is realistic. Okay. Thank you for…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
And that is all rail focused as well, of course, isn't it, which comes back to the point about an emphasis on buses. Chris, you wanted to pick up on that.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
So, you wouldn't recognise a suggestion that maybe some parts of Wales are slightly feeling behind the curve on this? Because, obviously, we see what's happening in Cardiff and the wider city region there, and people maybe feel that north Wales, for example…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Who wants to respond initially to this?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Yes, and that was an important point made in your written evidence, if I recall. Okay. We'll move on, if we may, to metros, and Janet, you're going to lead us on this.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Roger, do you have a view on that, given that, obviously, we're looking at a similar footprint, aren't we, in terms of the corporate joint committee in your area?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Yes, I know. I was just saying it for the benefit of the public that are probably listening, hopefully. Okay, does anybody else want to respond to that from Joyce? Joyce, do you want to—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Yes. So, strategic development plans is what we mean when we say SDP.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
And SDPs are the strategic development plans.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Tim.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay, thank you. We are short on time now, because there are a lot of areas. We want to get on to the metros, we want to talk a bit more about the White Paper, there's highway maintenance as well that we need to cover. So, I'll come to Joyce now for the next…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Yes, okay. Chris, do you want to come in?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Roger.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Huw wants to pick up on this, and then maybe I'll come back to Roger to conclude on this.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Now you're talking. Yes, absolutely. Okay, Chris.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Thank you. Huw.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Chris. Yes, please.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bus and rail transport in Wales - evidence session 4
Okay. Thank you. We're about halfway through our time and I think we've barely covered a third of the areas that we were hoping to pursue, so we'll try to change gear a little bit. I'll invite Delyth now to do just that, I hope.
