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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Thank you, Delyth. Thank you, Minister. We've covered quite a bit of the MEES, as the acronym is, so we'll move on, I think, to the optimised retrofit programme, and Joyce is going to lead us on this area.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Okay. Thank you for that, Minister. We'll move on to Delyth, then.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
No, there isn't, I'm sorry.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Very briefly, if you would, Minister, and I'm going to have to move on to another subject then, Jenny.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
And we will. Thank you for that. So, can I just remind Members and the Ministers as well that we are against time a little bit now, with a lot of ground to cover?
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
So, clearly you're hearing our concern around the need to accelerate that and to make sure that it does happen, because in your own words, it won't unlock anything unless we've got the skills to deliver some of this.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Could I just come in briefly on that, then? Because you did say earlier that you couldn't emphasise strongly enough the need for skills, obviously, because none of this is achievable without people out there to do the work. It is concerning for this committee…
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Yes, I think you may have muted yourself now. Yes, there we are, it's technology at its best. There we are. Emma.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Okay, who's going to help the Minister out on that one? Just indicate. Emma. You're automatically unmuted, so if you just raise your hands if you want to say anything, but—.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Okay, thank you very much for that. Right, Jenny.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Yes, very briefly then, please, because we have a number of questions that we need to get through.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Let's start with John then, if that's appropriate.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Welcome back to the committee. We'll continue with our scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change. Just to note, as well, that we have some additional officials joining us as well: Emma Williams, director of housing and regeneration, and…
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 2
Welcome back to the committee.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
There we are. Okay. Thank you for that, Deputy Minister, and thank you for spending a bit of time on that, because, obviously, is of huge concern and interest to many. Instead of starting on our next section, I propose that we just take a short break, about…
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Okay. Thank you for that, Andy. Just finally, then, and very briefly from me to the Deputy Minister: you restated your aim last week of reopening by the end of January. How will you reporting to us and/or the wider Senedd, really, on progress in that respect…
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Andy.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
On this, Huw.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Okay, thank you.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Andy.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Okay, thank you. Janet.
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Before I come back to Janet and then Huw, you say there are different interpretations of loading conditions. So, is that something that you're looking to introduce greater consistency around, then, because one person's interpretation of another bridge out…
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
So, are you saying that couldn't have been anticipated, then, because it sounds as if you're saying that nobody is at fault for any of this?
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Okay, thank you for that comprehensive answer. Many of us are just scratching our heads, really, as to why this was allowed to have happened, really. You've explained the process and how these issues were identified, but, of course, surely they should have…
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General scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - part 1
Okay. We'll ask Andy to address those, then.