, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Yes, okay. Thank you. Andrew, yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
So, you don't share Natural Resources Wales's view that the feasibility and the viability of the 2030 target should be reviewed.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
There we are, okay, we'll drill down on some of those issues as we go along. But, given that you've mentioned the 2030 ambition, can I ask whether you actually think it is feasible or should the target or the ambition of net zero by 2030 actually be reviewed?…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Okay, thank you for that, and Mary Ann, maybe, as the sort of dedicated spokesperson on this for the WLGA, to what extent—? Clearly, there's collaboration with the Welsh Government, which, in fairness, is what I asked about, but what about collaboration…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Welcome back to the Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee. We move on to the third item of this meeting this morning. We're going to hear from the panel of representatives from the Welsh Local Government Association. Of course, we're…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you. So, the committee will now break for 10 minutes. We will start again at 10:30, but we'll reconvene a few minutes before. Diolch yn fawr.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay, there we are. Can I thank you for joining us this morning, for sharing your report with us and your reflections on where we are and where we need to be, and what needs to be done between those two points? You will be given a copy of the draft transcript…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Yes, quite. There's that as well. Okay, Jenny, last word to you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. Huw and Jenny, very briefly, then, because we are short of time now.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. Just maybe one final one from me then, because we are nearing the end of our allocated time. The conclusion you come to is that it's highly uncertain as to whether this is achievable or not, although in some of the stakeholder feedback that we've had…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. [Laughter.] Right. Okay. So, you haven't formed a view, then, have you? Or, at least, you're not saying 'no' or 'yes'.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Are we making best use of them, then, is the—?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
No. [Laughter.]
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. Just coming back to the collaboration point that we touched on earlier—and I get the need to collaborate around technologies and those kinds of things—are we making best use of the collaboration that already exists, or the structures such as the public…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
There we are. Okay, diolch yn fawr. Delyth.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Did you want to come in on this, Huw, on the skills question?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. We'll come to Joyce, then, if that's okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
And I appreciate the work you did was a much wider focus, but, clearly, it's one example, isn't it, of the kind of thing—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay. Thank you, Huw. Jenny. And, just to say, then I've got Joyce and then Delyth as well. Jenny.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
More the stick than the carrot, then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
There we are, and with 780 organisations in the public sector, I suppose you need to take that sort of wide focus. Yes, okay. Huw, and then we'll come to Jenny.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Yes, sure.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Sure. Okay. Lovely.
