, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Papers to note
Yes. Okay. So, this is item 4.6—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Papers to note
So, we'll move to the next item, which is papers to note. Are Members happy to note all the papers together? Jenny.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Diolch.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Can I thank you for being here today, and thank your officials also? We will, of course, be welcoming you back at the end of Stage 1 to respond to some of the comments and evidence that we've received from other stakeholders. So, you will receive a copy of…
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Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Yes, okay. Well, I'm sure we have a view on that as a committee as well, which I'm sure will be expressed. There we are. Diolch yn fawr. Okay, any further questions to the Minister, because I think we've exhausted the list of questions that we were hoping to…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Okay. And we're grateful to you for sharing the correspondence with the Secretary of State for Levelling Up, as well.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
There we are. Okay. Thank you very much. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Yes. Okay, okay. Thank you. The RIA also says that there’ll be 'significant benefits' over and above what can be quantified financially, because of the more streamlined and unified consenting process. So, can you set out maybe what these significant benefits…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Thank you. I just wanted to ask a couple of things about costings. The regulatory impact assessment outlines—. Well, it doesn't, actually. It doesn't quantify the cost to communities. Now, I understand, obviously, that communities differ and projects will…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Okay, thank you very much
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Okay, thank you. Back to you, Delyth.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Huw. [Interruption.] Sorry. Huw, just on this.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Thank you. You touched, again, on compulsory purchase and I know, Minister, you offered earlier on maybe that you could provide a little note—or maybe a long note—for us on that. We would appreciate that, I think, given that it is something that does come up…
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Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Okay, thank you. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Yes, okay. Thank you for that. Huw.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Yes, I know. Okay, fine. Thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
But you don't think that that would be an issue at this end of the scale.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Yes, and that's the one that's been quoted to me.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
I know, I know. Yes. But there is a possibility that people might intentionally come below in order to keep it—.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Do you mind if I just ask one brief question there? Have you done any work looking at the likelihood of maybe projects—? Energy developers outline their plans, and they come to talk to Members of the Senedd and other people about what they are hoping to…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Welcome back to the committee. We will be continuing with our first evidence session with the Minister on Stage 1 of the Infrastructure (Wales) Bill. Jenny will start the second part of the meeting.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Fine. Well, we'll break at that point, then, and we'll reconvene, so that we can start our meeting again at 10:40. Diolch yn fawr.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
And that comes back to the engagement and hearing—[Inaudible.]—early enough in order to decide which process is the most appropriate, really.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Sure, okay. The Bill also provides flexibility for the examining authority to choose the appropriate procedure: for examining an application, it could be an open inquiry, it could be a hearing or in writing. Can you set out your thinking behind that…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Minister for Climate Change
Just a couple of questions before we take a break. All this has got to be done in 52 weeks now, or that's what being proposed in terms of the time frame for a decision. How did you arrive at the very rounded figure of 52 weeks? What's the science behind that…