, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Okay. Sorry, Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
You know, 80 per cent sometimes of the energy is spent on, 'Do we really need this', as opposed to looking at the proposal on its own merits.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Because is there not a risk that we end up arguing whether we need this infrastructure, as opposed to deliberating the merits of the planning application itself? I mean, that's the evidence that we've previously—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
But then you say that there is a need for something to fill some of those voids, such as what 'Llwybr Newydd' has done in relation to transport.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
If I could interject, if you don't mind? You're saying that 'Llwybr Newydd', for example, is great in terms of filling that space around transport, but you're not saying that we need infrastructure policy statements on those to fill those gaps. You feel that…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
There we are. Okay, thank you very much. Right, we'll move on now, then—Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Okay, thank you. Back to Jenny again.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Yes, and that's the point—the resource point.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Thank you. Back to you, Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
There we are. Okay. We'll be coming back to you in a moment, Janet, but Jenny first.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
And we'll be hearing from the developers next week, so obviously they'll be able to tell us what they bring to the table in terms of resource as well.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Okay, we'll move on, then, to Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Okay. Thank you very much.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Delyth wants to pick up on this as well.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Delyth. Thank you. We'll move on to Huw.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Roisin, anything to add?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Does the Bill have a role in ensuring that that sort of metrics and qualitative stuff is—? Not that it's necessarily on the face of the Bill, but that there's something there that ensures that this is captured.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
James to start.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
The devil is in the detail always, isn't it? Diolch yn fawr. We'll move on to Delyth, who's just being unmuted.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Of course, the nature of the Bill is that it's a framework Bill, and that allows for greater flexibility, or at least that's what the Minister tells us, and there is a balance that needs to be struck, isn't there, between allowing for that flexibility but, at…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
And that will very much be part of our deliberations over the next hour, I know. Okay. Diolch yn fawr. We have had evidence about the need for clarity in the transition period, from the existing arrangements right through to, obviously, the new regime. How do…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
And is that your view as well, James?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community groups & RTPI Cymru
Welcome back to the Climate Change, Environment and Infrastructure Committee at the Senedd. We move on now to our next session on the scrutiny of the Infrastructure (Wales) Bill. Joining us for this session are James Davies, who is the chief executive officer…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Natural Resources Wales and the National Infrastructure Commission for Wales
Well, thank you very much to the four of you. We very much appreciate the fact that you've given of your time to join us this morning. You have referred a few times—the commission has referred—to the session that you held on Monday. If anything should emanate…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Infrastructure (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Natural Resources Wales and the National Infrastructure Commission for Wales
There we are.
