, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Okay, thank you. Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Thank you. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Thank you. Yes, that's an important point. Peter, briefly, and then we'll come to Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Sorry, let's ask Jools to answer.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Sorry, as well, don't feel obliged that all of you have to answer all the questions. Clearly, if you've got anything, indicate, but otherwise—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Okay, thank you. I'm just mindful we're 25 minutes in, we're nearly a third of the way through, and we've covered two out of the nearly 20 areas that we wish to cover. So, maybe Members could be brief and maybe answers could be sharp and to the point. Huw…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Okay. Thank you to the three of you. That's a good scene-setter to kick us off, but I know there are some specifics that have been mentioned that Members will wish to pursue in greater detail as we go on. Delyth.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Thank you. So, Jools, just building on what Peter said there, obviously there's the five-year timeline of post Arriva, but also have we seen any palpable improvements or worsening of services since the effective nationalisation, then, if you like, a few years…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
So, would you share that characterisation, then, in terms of, 'Yes, it's much better than it was previously, but there are still issues ongoing'?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
David, would you like to start?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
We will move on then to item 2. Because this morning, as we prepare for our annual scrutiny work of Transport for Wales, and general scrutiny of transport with the Deputy Minister for Climate Change, we'll be having an evidence session regarding rail…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the meeting of the Climate Change, Environment and Infrastructure Committee here at Senedd Cymru. I welcome Members to this meeting. This is a hybrid-format meeting, and, aside from the adaptations relating to conducting…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of today's meeting
Item 6 is the motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of today's meeting. Are the Members content with that? Content. There we are. Then we will pause for a second as we move into private session…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Papers to note
So, we'll move on to item 5, papers to note. We will note all of the papers together if you're happy to do so? Everyone's happy with that. Thank you very much.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
Okay. Could I thank you very much, both of you, for your presence? We are very grateful for what you shared today. There will be a draft of the transcript for you to check to make sure that it doesn't misrepresent anything that's been said. So, thank you for…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
Any further questions or points Members wish to raise? We're coming to the end of our allocated slot. There we are.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
Okay, fine.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
Sure. Did you want to pick up on—?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
Diolch yn fawr. Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
Okay, diolch yn fawr. Delyth, you've been very patient. I'll come to you next.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
That's an important point, because getting that sort of consultation and that engagement right in all spheres constantly comes to this committee, from planning and other things. It's very often people don't feel that they've had that opportunity to…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
But that also reflects a necessity in terms of the demography that they represent, I suppose, does it?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
No. So, is part of your role maximising the potential of the different model in Wales, or supporting them in realising all the potential benefits around that, and, conversely, maybe minimising any risks that come with it?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
And you would tell us that that has absolutely no bearing on your considerations, because your role is much more focused and clinical and it shuts all of that out, does it?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Ofwat
Just coming back to this tension, then, between the different company models—the not-for-profit against the private shareholder model—to what extent would you say there's a greater societal tolerance or leeway given to Dŵr Cymru because of its model?
