, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Fine.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
These are really complicated, so I might get one of my officials to come and explain the way we do carbon emissions in a minute. But we use an overarching emissions model to consider, at the national level, what we're doing for national action, and we've got…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Yes. So, absolutely. On the optimised retrofit programme on the innovative housing scheme, for example, the whole purpose of those is to keep your house at a good ambient temperature all year round—so, without having to turn on mechanical aids if at all…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
So, that's a really good example of one of the problems, because emissions are volatile. So, what you need to do is look at trends. So, in one year, emissions might go up or down—you might have a colder winter or a warmer spring or whatever. So, they do…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
There's a really simple, straightforward explanation for this, actually. We've got milestones and targets for a large number of policies and proposals where we are certain of what we're doing and we've got a well-developed policy, but we haven't got detailed…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
We take their advice very seriously, and it's very definitely informed our thinking, but we've generated a set of ambitions and actions a little bit different from their model because we think it better reflects the geography, culture and economy of Wales…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Alongside Net Zero Wales, Delyth, we've put out another document that has a whole series of the pledges and actions that people have taken, just to try and show the link between what we're saying and what people are doing on the ground. I really like that…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Well, Janet, I'm always happy to do more engagement. I've already met with both farming unions. I spoke at the CLA conference at the end of last week. I've had at least four meetings with the CLA. I know Lesley has met with very large numbers of farmers and…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Well, Janet, we're very keen, of course, that we consult and bring with us everybody in Wales along this path. We're not going to be able to do this unless people want to do it. So, it's exactly the same as the recycling thing, as we always say, isn't it? The…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
One of the statistics that's quoted by absolutely everybody is that 1 per cent of the global population is responsible for 50 per cent of aviation emissions. So, 'yes' is the short answer to that. But can I come back to saying that the real answer is to…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
So, this is all about a balance, isn't it? We don't want people to feel that there's nothing that they can do, it's all hopeless, the thing is too big. You and I, Delyth, have spoken before about climate anxiety in young people, for example. So, I think it is…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
So, every two months, the four-nation inter-ministerial group on net zero meets, and, as I just said, we met yesterday. Yesterday, we were discussing the UK emissions trading scheme, implementing net zero. At that meeting, we agreed actually to meet in…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Yes. Yes, indeed. I don't know, Chair, if it would be helpful if I set out quite how we discuss these things with the UK Government.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Well, that's, again, an ongoing discussion between us and the UK Government. The First Minister made some remarks earlier this week about the percentage of electrification of Welsh rail. The ongoing arguments about HS2—. I fail to understand how the argument…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Yes, we absolutely are interested in that, and that's part of the piece of work we're doing, to see how much of that could be done here in Wales. There's a whole series of tech involved in that, Chair, as you can imagine. So, whether we can get all or some of…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
So, we're currently having discussions with various stakeholders—the bus companies themselves, Transport for Wales, the various local authorities. I'm hoping that we will be able to make some announcements maybe just before Christmas, but certainly before the…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Yes, thank you, Janet. We're very keen on working on an electric bus fleet for Wales. We have a number of other problems to overcome first. We're currently still in pandemic mode for public transport, so we're still having to support loss of fares and all the…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Well, it has been disappointing, I have to say. We had an inter-ministerial group only yesterday and we were all expressing our frustration that the UK Government, in the end, chose not to share their net zero strategy with us in any meaningful way ahead of…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Sorry, I seem to have a frog in my throat. Yes, and they're things that you'd expect to see—so, is less waste going to landfill in response to our recycling and landfill policies? That 'yes', 'no', amber, green, red—that kind of stuff. So, it'll track…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Yes, thank you very much, Chair. One of the first things, of course, is the creation of this new super ministry, as it's called, so, bringing together the levers—many of the levers, not all of them—from across the Government. So, for the first time, we've got…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Welsh Government's Net Zero Wales Plan
Diolch yn fawr. Thank you very much, Chair. It was really interesting to be at COP. I really came away from the conference feeling a little bit of two very contradictory emotions—so, hopeful, inspired, very determined to do some of the things that I think are…
, Plenary
Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal: A cladding safety Bill
Okay, I'll try it like that. There's a building site just outside my room here, so I just hope there aren't too many noises off. So, I was just saying that we've consistently held the view that leaseholders did not create the issues that have been identified…
, Plenary
Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal: A cladding safety Bill
It's not above my head, it's right here. Anyway, I'll take my headphones off and see if I can make any difference with that. Is that better or is that worse?
, Plenary
Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal: A cladding safety Bill
Okay. So, I started by saying that the remediation of unsafe, high-rise residential buildings is a priority for the Welsh Government, and combustible cladding is one part of that. We've consistently—[Inaudible.]—and it's right—. Has it gone again?
, Plenary
Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal: A cladding safety Bill
Okay. I don't know what's happening there. Can you hear me now?
