, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 4
Okay. Can I call Sarah Murphy?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 4
Thank you.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 4
Can we unmute Professor Iwobi, please?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 4
Thank you for that. I'll just call in Jane Dodds, who is going to pursue this further.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 4
It makes it difficult for us to set achievable targets for the Welsh Government, because we don't know what the baseline is. Nevertheless, there are people in England who are also just as concerned as everybody else in this room is to ensure that we have an…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 4
Okay. So, what action do you think is needed to deliver a much less racist criminal justice system in the light of your research?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 4
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee meeting this afternoon. We are now going to have our fourth session on the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan'. I'm very pleased to welcome Professor Uzo Iwobi from Race Council Cymru, who is joining us…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Thank you very much. And on that very positive note, I want to thank you all for the excellence of your contributions. We've had a really, really interesting session, where we have captured an awful lot of information. We could have gone on for three days…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Very good. I can't see any other Members who wish to ask a question. Oh, sorry, Sioned.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Okay. All right. Are there any other Members who—? Altaf, you wanted to.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Okay. Thank you. I've got one other question for Debbie, which is: what happens in the emergency department, when you get somebody coming in who doesn't speak very much English or Welsh? Clearly, it's an emergency; do the emergency staff have, if you like…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Okay. Fine. Just a couple of things from me. I just want to go back to what Farzana was saying near the beginning of this session, which is around the fact that you're a voluntary organisation and you don't feel there's anybody else really doing the sort of…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Thank you.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Debbie, do you want to start?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Okay, thank you very much. I think, Ken Skates, you wanted to follow up on these very issues.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Very good. Jane Dodds, would you like to come in here?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Shanti, go ahead.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Debbie, go ahead.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Thank you. Sioned Williams.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Just very quickly, can I ask Debbie whether you would normally have the appropriate language interpreter booked when there's a planned secondary care consultation going on?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Thank you. I want to bring in Sarah Murphy at this point, as she wants to pursue some of these issues.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Shall we bring Farzana in first?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Thank you for that honesty. Altaf Hussain wants to come in at this point.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
You raise some really important issues about how we engage the public in respecting all the people who are working so hard in the NHS, to support them. Clearly there's work going on in schools; what work is going on in primary care? Because that's where 90…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Inquiry into the implementation of the 'Anti-racist Wales Action Plan': evidence session 3
Thank you for that clarification. Shanti, did you want to follow up?