, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Food Policy Alliance Cymru
So, how effective is the message you're obviously promoting through things like SHEP, which is excellent? How receptive are these health boards to putting money into prevention, rather than the ill health demands?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Food Policy Alliance Cymru
Sorry, could I just ask you, although you're based in Cardiff and the Vale, you're actually in dialogue with all the other six health boards?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Food Policy Alliance Cymru
Okay. Lisa, we heard from the public health experts earlier, and they were saying, 'We can either spend loads more money on treating the consequences of poor health or we can prioritise prevention.' You work for Cardiff and Vale health board, how much success…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Food Policy Alliance Cymru
What you're doing is wonderful, but how we scale that up to meet the needs of all children—. Obviously, the new curriculum helps us. What conversations have you had with Government about the £10 million to £20 million, which I agree is small change compared…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Food Policy Alliance Cymru
I beg your pardon. Sorry?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Food Policy Alliance Cymru
Obviously, we have a public health emergency and we seem to be just repeating the mistakes of the smoking story, where we don't take action sufficiently quickly. The public health consultants who we saw earlier said, as a priority, we should ensure public…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Okay. But you recognise the link, don't you?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
The review of maternity weight management services.
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
So, how are we going to do this? This is a disaster. We're about to hit the brick wall, and yet we don't seem to be able to take the decisions that need to be taken. So, what can we expect from this review?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Well, except that if we had—. Busy midwives aren't going to have the time to sit with a new mum and help them successfully breastfeed, as they need a multidisciplinary team, and I'm ever surprised that we don't have breastfeeding support workers working…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Huh?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Okay. Well, we know that breastfeeding makes a difference. So, in your—
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Yes. It's all down to political leadership on one level, because the Healthy Start scheme, Lynne Neagle was shocked that the Healthy Start vouchers had 40 per cent take-up when she looked at it, and it took a mandatory training course for all health visitors…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Yes, totally.
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Okay. So, my final question is: just as, in the health sector, you find people who are reluctant to measure people's waists, et cetera, we also have people in the education sector whose diet is a disaster zone themselves. So, how are we going to get—? We're…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
At the moment, caterers are basically targeting people with all the things they're doing in the commercial sector, which is they give you the sugary options, the bottles of water when it should be free. And really, it's our fault that we're not doing…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
So, what is stopping us doing this, given that, at the moment, the Cabinet Secretary doesn't intend to introduce new regulations until 2026?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
You say that the food-based standards in schools are complex and do not meet nutritional requirements. I appreciate you've put a caveat in there, but I absolutely would agree with that. So, why are we spending £600 million on something that doesn't meet…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
This was in the last UK Government, was it? They were probably instructed not to do that.
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
I'm sure caterers would quickly understand it—
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Thank you for your paper, which is comprehensive and tells you the size of the problem and our failure to act earlier. You say that, as a priority, we should ensure that public sector food provision takes action to reduce—you say ‘reduce’—the use of…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Given that we know that the girdle, the abdominal measurement, is a really key indicator of the risks that people are carrying, why don't we simply ask our health professionals just to measure people's waists? They only need a tape measure, not an expensive…
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
How long has the national implementation board been meeting and why is it that you still haven't come up with what we need to do, given how urgent this is?
, Health and Social Care Committee
Prevention of ill health - obesity: evidence session with Public Health Wales
Why are we repeating the same mistakes, then? Because the tobacco industry hammered Governments and told them not to ban it, so it took us 50 years, or something. We knew all about it, and we didn't—. So, why are we making the same mistakes with food?
, Plenary
Joint Debate on Committee Reports: The Sustainable Farming Scheme and Farming Connect
These sound interesting figures. Where did you get them from?