21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
We'll now move back into private session under Standing Order 17.42, unless anybody objects.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
—we'll obviously be doing a short report, which has to be delivered to the Welsh Government within two days.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you very much for being candid and clear in answer to our questions. So, unless there's anybody with a burning question who's joined us online, thank you very much indeed for being with us today. And—
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. Thank you very much indeed.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. And I suppose, lastly, what do you think has been the most successful piece of work by the outgoing commissioner? And what would success look like at the end of your seven-year tenure, were you to be appointed?
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. I'd just like to throw the Williams commission at you. I think it was in 2018 that Sir Paul Williams said: 'radical change is needed for public services to survive in a viable and sustainable form'. So, I wonder how much you think things have changed…
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. Mark, do you want to come back?
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Mark, can I just interject here? What would your relationship be with Audit Wales? How are you going to ensure that it complements rather than duplicates?
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. Can I turn to Mark Isherwood, as Chair of the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee?
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay, thank you. Can I bring in Ken Skates at this point?
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. So, while you're writing your plan—your six-month plan—you're going to have all these organisations wondering how they're going to deliver the same services, or not deliver those services, with the same amount of money and increased energy costs, et…
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
In the meantime, the UK Government has issued an autumn statement, which indicates that there's going to be less money for the public sector, and that will include for Wales, too. How are you going to use the role of the office of the future generations…
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Natasha—
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. Natasha Asghar.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. I've got a couple of Members who want to come in, and I want to come back as well. Ken Skates, and then Natasha Asghar.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
The Senedd committees that I've been involved in have written reports that have been critical of the current commissioner spending too much time supporting the Welsh Government on how it implements its own Act, and not enough time on supporting the other 45…
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. Sioned, did you want to come back?
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Okay. Sioned Williams.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. Sarah Murphy, you wanted to come in.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. Can I bring in Altaf Hussain at this point?
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. I would like to very much welcome Derek Walker for this pre-appointment hearing for the very important job of well-being of future generations commissioner, because, obviously, the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 is one of the…
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Pre-appointment hearing with the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee. I just want to introduce the Members who've joined us from the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee. We're joined by Mark Isherwood, Natasha Asghar and, hopefully, Rhianon Passmore in…
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to exclude the public from items 4, 7, 8 and 9 of today's meeting and for the duration of the meeting on 28 November 2022
We're now going to take a short break. We'll be resuming in public at 3 o'clock with our pre-appointment hearing for the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales. So, anybody who's in the public gallery who'd like to come back at 3 o'clock, you're very…
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Experiences in the criminal justice system
Both our reports, in due course. Thank you.
21 November 2022 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Experiences in the criminal justice system
Thank you very much indeed. We will send you a transcript of your evidence. Please use the opportunity to correct anything that has been misheard or misinterpreted. Otherwise, thank you very much for your evidence today, and we'll obviously ensure that you…
