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Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting
And I’ll now ask you that we now move into private session, under Standing Order 17.42.
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Papers to note
So, in the meantime, I wondered if Members could agree to note three papers on the order paper.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
—of how many people you are employing, that would be really helpful. We’ll be sending you a transcript anyway of your evidence, and you can amend it if it’s not accurate. So, the next evidence session on this really important subject of disability and…
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Very good. Thank you very much. We’ve run out of time, I’m afraid. If there is any additional evidence of examples that you want to submit, and you were promising to do some analysis of the statistics, I think, Rosie, at the beginning—
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Okay. I know Sioned Williams has got some questions around this, so go ahead, Sioned.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Go ahead.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Okay. So—
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
—who are also larger in—? I appreciate SMEs are the main employers.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Okay. But will it not have an impact on larger companies, though—
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
You're probably right—you've got to employ a certain number of people for it to apply to you.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Why?
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Okay. So, to what extent will the UK Government's Employment Rights Bill, which includes the introduction of mandatory disability pay gap reporting, have an impact on tightening up what's going on in companies and also start to close the disability employment…
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Sure. But that sounds like that's what you guys do, just from listening to you.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Yes. And then there are three health boards, plus Public Health Wales. That's not good enough. There are 46 bodies, plus some more, who are signatories to the well-being of future generations Act. How are we going to get that change that we need? You're doing…
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Pembrokeshire.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Fair enough. I think that's probably a fair assessment, based on what we've heard so far. You're obviously doing some great work—these 115 organisations that are members of the group of companies who are employing 25 per cent disabled people, which is…
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Okay. All important points. I'll call on Jane Dodds.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Okay, very good. Mick Antoniw.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
Joel James is going to start off with questions.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 13
So, for our final session this afternoon, I'm very pleased to welcome Rosie Cribb, representing Social Firms Wales, and thank you very much indeed for your paper, and Richard Welfoot, from the Merthyr institute for the blind. Welcome, both of you.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 12
I think we've run out of time, so I think we're going to have to send you the last two questions, and we're very happy if there's anything further you want to add, but we're not going to get the next contributors in before we literally lose the committee…
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Disability and employment: evidence session 12
Who wants to go first? I think Isabel.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 12
[Inaudible.]—because I want Sioned Williams to ask some questions. So, Sioned, please ask what you are able to in the last five minutes.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 12
Thank you. I now want to hand over—. Could somebody unmute me? I don't think I can be heard. I would now like to hand over to Joel James.
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Disability and employment: evidence session 12
Very good. I'm now going to hand over to Jane Dodds.