, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 9—think tanks and academics
Okay. In Germany, that was quite famous at one point for having the trade unions in the same room as the employers to discuss workplace issues. Other people have said to me, 'Oh, well that benefited the trade union officials who were in the room, but didn't…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 9—think tanks and academics
Okay, thank you for that. Joel, back to you.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 9—think tanks and academics
Thank you. Back to you, Mike.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 9—think tanks and academics
Yes, indeed.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 9—think tanks and academics
[Inaudible.]—I'll bring in Mike Hedges, who I know has some questions on this, and I'll come back to you on the other.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 9—think tanks and academics
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee. We're going to have a further scrutiny session—session 9—on the Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill. We have three eminent professors who are experts in procurement: Professor Alan…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Thank you both for that. We will send you a transcript of your contributions, and please take the opportunity to ensure that we have accurately captured what you were saying. Otherwise, thank you very much indeed for your contributions—extremely useful—and…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Thank you very much for those comments. Kirsty, is there anything you'd like to add on any of that?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Okay. Just lastly from me, obviously the voluntary sector is great at galvanising citizens to volunteer. How are you squaring the circle, do you think, in the context of public procurement, so that there’s clarity about paying people for doing a job of work…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Very good. We can now go to Ken Skates.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Thank you. I'll pass over to Peredur Owen Griffiths, who's got questions on this.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
So, Kirsty, would you welcome—would your organisations welcome—seeing something that prevented your members from sourcing one of the products you were going to use from an organisation that was using slave labour, for example?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Okay. And you mentioned earlier in your remarks about the link with the global responsibilities that we all have, if we're subject to the well-being of future generations Act, and yet we've had some correspondence from other organisations saying that this…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Okay. I just want to have a look at—. A lot of public bodies face wicked issues that are very difficult to resolve. Do you think that the Bill is going to encourage the voluntary sector to be involved in procuring services that might be better done in a new…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Excellent. Thank you. Can we now move on to Jane Dodds?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Ruth to start off, yes.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Thank you very much. Peredur Owen Griffiths.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Kirsty, did you want to add anything? You don't have to repeat what Ruth has said if you agree with that, but if there's anything you want to add. Otherwise, I will move on to the next Member who wants to ask questions.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Does Kirsty want to come in and comment?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
[Inaudible.]
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 8—voluntary sector
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee, and we're now going to take our eighth evidence session on the social justice and public procurement Bill. This session is with the voluntary sector, so I'd very much like to welcome Ruth Marks from…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 7—procurement experts
The committee will now take a short break and we will resume promptly at 11:35 for our next scrutiny session with the voluntary sector.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 7—procurement experts
Thank you. So, scrutiny of outcomes is key to delivery of the objectives that we are setting ourselves. Thank you for that. We'll send you transcripts of your contributions and obviously, I'd urge you to make sure that we have accurately recorded what you…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 7—procurement experts
Very quickly.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 7—procurement experts
Liz, you wanted to come back on that.
