, Plenary
Business Statement and Announcement
As the Welsh Government is now a supersponsor for receiving Ukrainian refugees, we do hope that we'll now be able to see people arriving in this country in order to take up the very kind offers that so many people across Wales have given. In light of the…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) and (ix) to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting
I'd now like to move a motion to exclude the public from the remainder of today's meeting, if that's agreeable to Members. Thank you. Please could you let us know once we are in private session?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papers to note
So, members of the committee, if we could just note several papers in relation to the Welsh Government's response to our childcare report, which will be debated on 30 March in the Plenary session; correspondence from the Senedd Commission on the use of the…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Diolch yn fawr.
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Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Thank you for that. The clock has beaten us, but, clearly, there are a lot of very important consultations coming to a conclusion, which, hopefully, will enable the Welsh Government to bring all this together so that lower income households, in particular…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Ken Skates.
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Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Back to you, Sam.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Sam, could you allow Jane Dodds just to ask a question?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Fine, thank you. Sam, do you want to come back in?
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Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Okay.
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Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Okay. So, if there's further information that you're able to provide us with on insulation and how you're actually going to really push forward on this in the next six months over the summer, we'd really welcome that, because I think that that's crucial.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Okay. Obviously, there was considerable concern that we were putting in gas boilers and we weren't dealing with the leaky windows and doors. So, is the new—? You know, the next six months are crucial, really, given the international situation. Does the Welsh…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
So, you say that you can't push more people into fuel poverty, but as it's a racing certainty that the fuel cap is going to be further raised in October, what is the capacity of the Welsh Government to mobilise this fabric-first approach, particularly in…
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Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Thank you. We'll look forward to that.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Can we move on to Sarah Murphy then, please?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Jane, had you completed your questions?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Okay, fine. Samuel. Can both Members and Minister and officials be brief in your answers, because we've only got until half past?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Moving back to 'worst first', Jane Dodds.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Okay. Over to Samuel Kurtz, please.
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Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Back to you, Ken.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Who'd like to go first? Steve, do you want to go first? We need somebody to unmute you.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Thank you. Can I move on to Ken Skates now?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Yes. I think, particularly, it'd be useful to see the breakdown by social tenancies as opposed to private tenancies, or privately owned. Sioned Williams, I think you wanted to pursue the eligibility issue.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Mark Alexander, did you want to add anything? Because at one point I believe you were—. Okay, that's fine. I just wanted to ask you, Minister, before we move on to the specific schemes, you said that there have been about 200,000 households taking up the…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Fuel poverty and the Warm Homes programme: Evidence session 5
Minister, I think we—. I note the passion in your voice, but I think if we can just take this one thing at a time. I'm sure there will be opportunities for all of the things you want to cover. Jane, did you want to come in? No. That's fine. Okay, we'll just…
