, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
I just wanted to follow-up on what Nisreen just said. If we're going to make it a universal obligation of public bodies, they may not have the skills to actually carry out that duty, whatever it might be. I'll refer to the food that's needed to feed children…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Well—.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Thank you very much. Joel James.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Fine. Okay, thank you for that. We'll now move on to Peredur Owen Griffiths.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Okay, thank you. I understand what you're saying. Nisreen.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Okay. Well, some employers are better than others at engaging with their workforce, and obviously retention is a really important issue in some sectors—in many sectors. So, are there any other fair work issues or measures that you'd like to see in the Bill to…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Recognising the restraints on Welsh Government as it divides up the budget for the public sector, what do you think could be achieved by legislation, as opposed to other measures, to improve the way in which workers are consulted in their workplaces in the…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Thank you. I just want to ask you about fair work, because it's two lines in the Bill, and then just over a page of explanation as to what that means. What do you think it will mean if we pass this Bill as read? How is it going to improve the work conditions…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Very good. Thank you very much. We now move to Sarah Murphy.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Okay. Jane Dodds.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Okay. Nisreen and Darren, can we move on to the social partnership council, unless there's anything urgent that you need to—? So, Jane Dodds, would you like to start us off? Oh, Ken—sorry, I thought you'd been detained. Ken, would you like to start us off?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Bethan, do you want to start, as your organisation has been named?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Okay. A brief question—not two.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
A brief question.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Go ahead.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
Hopefully briefly. And I think precision as well. What does 'good' look like?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4—trade unions (1)
I'd like to welcome back Members and contributors to the evidence session with the trade unions, our first evidence session with the trade unions, and I very much welcome Nisreen Mansour from the Wales Trades Union Congress, Bethan Thomas from Unison, and…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
Thank you. Thank you all for the conciseness and candour of your contributions. We will send you a transcript of what you've said, and obviously you should use that opportunity to correct anything that's been misheard, and otherwise we thank you very much…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
All right. Thank you. That would be very useful, Leighton, because I think—. Obviously, I'm not suggesting for a minute that anybody's setting out to do that sort of thing, but I think it's a good illustration of how we all need to be clear on where the…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
Okay. So, just turning to the role of bigger companies, Leighton and Richard. Clearly, we've all had our fingers burnt by Grenfell Tower and the construction contracts that weren't properly tied down. Is there enough clarity in the Bill about what the…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
Thank you very much. I think the example Paul gave earlier is an example of poor procurement, and, clearly, there's a role for us in ensuring that those who are doing the procuring have really framed the contract that people need to bid for accurately and…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
Thank you very much. Peredur.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
Can I just say there's no need to repeat what you've already said, it's really what you want to add?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
I think we need to move on at this point. So, Joel James.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3—private sector employers
Jane Dodds.