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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 3
Just briefly from me—last question—Nic, you mentioned that we've got 193 women in custody at the moment. Are you able to give us a comparative figure with the numbers who used to be locked up, prior to all these different interventions?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 3
Okay. Emma, you wanted to come in on this.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 3
Okay, thank you for that, and thank you for your very comprehensive paper. You're recommending that the women's pathfinder whole-system approach and the 18-25 service need to be expanded across Wales. Could you tell us whether there's buy-in on that…
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 3
Okay, very good. So, it's a work in progress. To what extent can women who may be in, or at risk of entering, the criminal justice system access a consistent level of support regardless of where they come from in Wales?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 3
Victoria and Nic, is the blueprint the solution after 15 years of talking about it?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 3
Can I just—? We are going to run out of time and other Members have got very specific questions, and I'm sure they'll come back to you on these issues. Thank you, Emma.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 3
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee. We're continuing our inquiry into women's experiences of the criminal justice system. For our third panel, we've got Nicola Davies and Victoria Harries from His Majesty's Prison and Probation Service…
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Very good. Thank you very much, all of you, for your evidence and for your time today. Jo, I wondered if you could send us the link to the report you mentioned on looking at this from the whole-family perspective—that would be really helpful. Otherwise, all…
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Thank you. And Chantal.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Thank you. Jo.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Okay. Thank you. If there's one thing that you would recommend for improving the current situation, what would it be, each of the witnesses? Who'd like to start? Dee.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
I'm just going to ask if we can extend the discussion by literally a couple of minutes. For a start, Chantal, you mention in your written evidence that Bronzefield has the highest number completing treatment to become drug free, whereas in contrast HMP…
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Okay. Sarah, did you want to briefly ask something?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Fine. Sarah, a brief intervention, before I go back to Altaf.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Okay. Jo.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
No, you're making an assumption. Okay.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Fine. Okay. Dee, do you have anything that you want to add on this?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Lots of research on this, so if you could all be brief in your answers. Who wants to go first? Chantal, do you want to go first?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Chantal, some women enter the prison system not knowing they are pregnant, and that only arises afterwards. Is there anything you are able to add on how well we accommodate pregnant women?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Do you want to go first, and then we'll bring in the other two?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Thank you. Can we turn now to Altaf Hussain, who's got some questions about the impact on parenting?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Sarah Murphy, you wanted to ask a question on this.
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Okay. Jo, anything that you want to add to that?
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Okay. We'll follow it up. The autumn comes to the end of this month, in my book, but it has been known for things to slide. Before we move on, I just want to ask two specifics. One is on why it is that women in Wales who've been using buprenorphine to manage…
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Women's experiences of the criminal justice system—evidence session 2
Okay, just to clarify, this is the report that you said was due to be published in the autumn. Is that right?
